The 'Baddest' Baddies

[Serin]

Have to go with the wraith (Stargate Atlantis). The Goa'uld are evil but to me the Wraith have the edge.

[Ursa major]

Originally Posted by pyan

Or, while we're with Voyager, how about Species 8472?

A species that recreated Boothby are baddies?

[nixie]

The daleks, exterminate exterminate

[Essie]

Originally Posted by pyan

Or, while we're with Voyager, how about Species 8472?

I did think about Species 8472 but then I thought were they really bad? Maybe they were just defending themselves. Not sure.

I thought people might mention the Wraith but somehow they just don't creep me out - part of their 'badness' to me comes out of their will to survive - which is why they feed off humans. Now the Goa'uld and the Repicators - both give me the creeps - particularly before the replicators became 'humanoid'. The noise of them scampering around - yuck!

[nj1]

can i have MR BURNS from the simpsons, in one episode he not only blocked out the sun, but he also tried to STEAL candy from a baby!! EVIL, PURE EVIL

[Essie]

Too true! Nice one.

[Ursa major]

The Replicators became less scary when they started to take on human-like forms. Before that, they were more like a force of (artificial) nature.

[pyan]

Originally Posted by nj1

can i have MR BURNS from the simpsons, in one episode he not only blocked out the sun, but he also tried to STEAL candy from a baby!! EVIL, PURE EVIL

Oh yes...how about his "See My Vest" song.....

Some men hunt for sport,
Others hunt for food,
The only thing I'm hunting for,
Is an outfit that looks good...

See my vest, see my vest,
Made from real gorilla chest,
Feel this sweater, there's no better,
Than authentic Irish setter.

See this hat, 'twas my cat,
My evening wear - vampire bat,
These white slippers are albino
African endangered rhino.

Grizzly bear underwear,
Turtles' necks, I've got my share,
Beret of poodle, on my noodle
It shall rest,

Try my red robin suit,
It comes one breast or two,
See my vest, see my vest,
See my vest.

Like my loafers? Former gophers -
It was that or skin my chauffeurs,
But a greyhound fur tuxedo
Would be best.

Sheer evil class.

[andrew.v.spencer]

I've always had a morbid fear of lego. They can become so many things. Too many things, things with teeth and too many arms.

[Ursa major]

Yes, I can imagine:

"Lego of me! Lego of me!"

[andrew.v.spencer]

That's puntastic.

[Talysia]

The Replicators - I found them to be a bit like the Borg, but on a very basic scale: good as an enemy, and certainly frightening in concept, but I'm not sure how much was driven by necessity for them. And with the Wraith it was the whole feeding off humans thing that put me off them.

I remember Species 8472, but I was thinking about another Voyager race in terms of evil: the Hirogen (or was it? Can't remember the name). Weren't they famous for their cruel hunts and suchlike?

And nj1 - Brilliant! I'd forgotten about that song, Py!

[JadeTrickster]

Are you talking about the ones that voyager gave holodeck technology to? The ones who turned off the safety protocols and killed the holos over and over in pain? Your're right, they are worse than the borg....

[Talysia]

Yep, they were the ones I was thinking of.

[Essie]

Although I think the Hirogen should have been scary - the idea certainly was quite good - they somehow just didn't appear scary enough. Don't know why that was though. Even though you know (mostly) that the main characters will win the day, somehow in Voyager you knew the crew would always win - they never seemed really in danger. Possibly because they 'came back from the dead' so many times through altered time-lines etc. I never felt that anyone of them was at risk of dying so the baddies never seemed that evil to me. This really isn't to say that I didn't like Voyager because I don't mind it at all - it's just the way the series felt to me.