2.03: To the Last Man

[Essie]

As you said about the bag.

Yeah - noticed that too - we rewound it to check and she definitely dropped it.

[Dave]

Mary - I'm afraid that I did miss Ianto and Jack coupling last season - was that after they discussed 1001 things to do with a stopwatch then? If so, it wasn't shown on screen.

Lenny - the spoiler website did say that one of the spoilers was a red herring. That must be the one, though it could yet relate to another episode. Oh, and don't wait for me, start a thread on next week if you want to. I can't believe they are going to add 'him' to the team!

Mad Mac Tam - Yes, the psychic bit also seemed off to me, I forgot about that.

And I would also like to see a steam-punk version of Torchwood, if only for one episode.

[Moonbat]

It was a bit pridictable for a 45min eipsode, kind of realised what was happening almost as soon as it started, just a simple time loop (simple?)
I liked the old torchwood, and the development of Tosh's character, but it did seem to have some plot holes.
Are we to believe that the 'rift' caused the time shift, and it was entirely lucky that they took Tommy from 1918 and froze him so that once they had dicovered the time key (which was a golden compass and didn't really seem to unlock, it opened a bit and then closed after releasing some visible (to the viewer) rift energy) he would be able to take it back from the future to the past where it was required? to clounter the time shift.
If the key already existed then surely the two old Torchwood people could have used it and would not have had to lock Tommy in a draw for almost a century.
and since when did Cryogenics exist in 1918, cryogenics that were good enough to anually thaw and re-freeze a subject without ill effects (except for a cough).
Tosh's amazing boomerang bag didn't help, nor the passionate snog between jack and Ianto, what a waste of a scene that was!
The only good bit was the ghostly explanation of time shifts, not that we haven't heard that before.

I do kind of like Torchwood, I'm just a bit starved for decent TV sci-fi at the moment, both Dr Who and Torchwood seem to have childrens science, everything just needs a long semi-technical word and it can be explained.

[Lenny]

and since when did Cryogenics exist in 1918, cryogenics that were good enough to anually thaw and re-freeze a subject without ill effects (except for a cough).

It was explained as alien cryogenics.

Something along the lines of:

"Torchwood has been using alien cryogenics for decades".

[Ice fyre]

[quote=Dave;1049818]Mary - I'm afraid that I did miss Ianto and Jack coupling last season - was that after they discussed 1001 things to do with a stopwatch then? If so, it wasn't shown on screen.

What do you think they were doing with the stop watch? Timing each other's press ups? Dont think were ready for explicit homosexual sex just yet on Torchwood do you?

[Mary Hoffman]

Originally Posted by Dave

Mary - I'm afraid that I did miss Ianto and Jack coupling last season - was that after they discussed 1001 things to do with a stopwatch then? If so, it wasn't shown on screen.

I can't give you episode and date, Dave but I'm pretty sure it was BEFORE the stopwatch comment because it was kind of obvious where they were going with that.

I think the trouble is that the donnee of the series is that EVERYONE, human, alien, animal or robot has to fancy the pants off Jack and there are so many hormones swooshing around that everyone else gets horny too and starts practically humping the furniture!

I don't have too much of a problem with the premise, just the kind of monotony of what it leads to.

Mary

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Mary Hoffman

I think the trouble is that the donnee of the series is that EVERYONE, human, alien, animal or robot has to fancy the pants off Jack and there are so many hormones swooshing around that everyone else gets horny too and starts practically humping the furniture!

That about sums it up!

[Dr.Jackson]

Despite being predictable, except the randomly inserted Ianto/Jack snog, this was a pretty good episode. Jack opening up a bit more about his past - talking about seeing the carnage at the battle of the Somme and so on - was good to see. I think that points to him trusting the team more to discuss his past later in the series when John comes back.
I thought that the Time Key thing was a bit of an anti-climax though, a quick puff of Rift Energy and that's it! Also, the Key looked very Victorian, all clunky and brass, although it wouldn't have looked out of place on the TARDIS console. Strange that Torchwood 1918 didn't know about it.
Mind you, they seemed to be setting precedent by announcing that they were Torchwood, so Jack and his lot aren't just being brash about it and advertising for the first time.

[Serin]

I just couldn't get into the last series of Torchwood at all. This series, though, I can, and I am actually enjoying it. Noticed the bag bit myself. I, too, would like to see more of Torchwood 1918.

[Lenny]

To bring this back to life (boo-yah!), what with the developments from 2.12: Fragments - surely Jack would have known something more about this than he did?