Implications on Jon being LC

[TK-421]

HAAAA! The Kettleblacks talking street talk. Too funny!

Boaz to the rescue!! Sorry, I couldn't stop laughing I just had to let the joke going for a little bit.

Kiwi: My favourite cougar (and one I would not mind getting attacked by) is that good old Canadian girl Kim Cattrall. Demi Moore is another good example.

But is Mel really a cougar? How old is she really?

[DeannaBelle]

I like where this thread is going.

Let's not forget "pig," "tigress," "snake," "worm," "kitten," "dove," um... "bunny," etc.

[KiwiBird]

and thats the perfect cue to get back on topic. What will you guys think might become direct results on Jon becoming LC.

[vervain_ashe]

Originally Posted by Boaz

Kiwi, Cougar is current American slang for an older woman, more specifically one who is interested in younger men and actively pursues them. Dog can be slang for an ugly woman. Dog can also be slang for a sneaky or unfaithful man. Dog is also used as contemporary slang between male friends to identify each other. Fox is seventies slang for a beautiful woman... even though it's archaic, people will know what you mean if you say it. Wolf is older slang for a man always looking for a woman. Cat was slang from the jazz and big band eras to describe an unflappable guy.

Soooo... Melisandre is a cougar. Brienne is a dog. Tom O'Sevens is a dog. Osmund might say to Osney, "What up, dog?" Cersei is a fox. Robert was a wolf. Littlefinger is one cool cat.

Littlefinger!? Oh, Boaz, Boaz. Did you really have to go there?! Anyhow, your slang interpretation is quite correct, no matter what part of the US you're from or speaking of. You left out the weasel though. And the rat.

[vervain_ashe]

Originally Posted by KiwiBird

and thats the perfect cue to get back on topic. What will you guys think might become direct results on Jon becoming LC.

Hard to say, Kiwi. I want him to be a fantastic success... however, does it seem coincidental to anyone else that Jon is the 998th Lord Commander? Does that not lead to a perfect succession to 1000 before the series is through?

I've routed for Jon the entire time. Especially after a second read of the series. In all truth, I want Jon to be one of the ones that stands tall at the end, but in order to have a 999th or 1000th LC, Jon has to die, or somehow manage to leave the wall whilst holding his honor intact.

I wholeheartedly believe Jon will be in the Seventh Book, but to what extent, I cannot say...

[KiwiBird]

I wonder if he really is the 998th Lord commander, i remember reading in AFFC that Sam said that was debatable, that he had found information that might prove the count wrong.

For some reason the count of LC reminds me a bit of the count of popes, the're have been many hundreds by know as well.

[KiwiBird]

I was thinking about the number. And i came up with the following:

1) GRRM just wants us to think something will happen to Jon, but in reality would never go down that cliché-road of having exactly a 1000th LC of the NW.

Seeing as the following book will in great part be about the wall, it could mean that:

2) Jon dies at the end.
3) Jon 'dies' like Bran and Rickon but not really, and the NW just think him dead and appoint a new LC.
4) Jon becomes a wight.
5) Jon gets desposed, (by various possible reeasons), and a new LC is chosen.
6) The NW is sundered in two by rivalry, ... ; and rivalling LC are chosen.

[DeannaBelle]

Kiwi, Jon does not become a wight. He joins the mob-under-the-wall with Coldhands.

[KiwiBird]

Questionmark!

[DeannaBelle]

No, that's an exclamation mark.

I'm j/k. Jon does not become a wight. He does not die.

Although I must say that Catelyn's words to Jon in the first book haunt me. When he's departing from Bran's room, our favotire lady says "Jon," (she never called him by his name) "It should have been you." And then she cried.

Of course she was just angry and speaking nonsense, but... It may be a foreshadowing.

[TK-421]

Not likely.

[Animusman]

Melisandre will fall for tyrion

[viZion]

Originally Posted by Animusman

Melisandre will fall for tyrion

Best crackpot theory...ever! I bet this makes Boaz proud.

[Animusman]

Originally Posted by viZion

Best crackpot theory...ever! I bet this makes Boaz proud.

Just a little bit of humor there. Tyrion i would have to say is one of my favorite characters.

[Tansy]

Excuse my rambling thoughts here as I haven't read AFfC yet but I think Jon will bring down the wall with the Horn of Winter. Whether that then frees him up to become a head of the dragon, Lord of Winterfall or is his last act as he dies I am unsure of, but the fact he is desperate not to become a turncloak hints that will will be the ultimate turncloak, but it could be that it works out for the good of all in the end. (unless of course something has happened to said horn in AFfC)

If the wights are destroyed there is no need for the wall, I think in the end the long Winter will be gone and normal seasons will be restored. Is it the Wights that bring the cold or the cold that brings the Wights?

I'm probably totally wrong as as I haven't read all the available books yet I'm probably well off track. I think Jon has a fate outside Westeros, he is on the wall for a purpose, maybe to unite the Wildlings and bring down the boundaries between the two peoples, or maybe just to die painfully . I certainly think he will work with Dani and Mel to rid the world of the Wights if given the opportunity and the Wildlings are starting to respect and fear him

Apologies if all this has been said before but I'm new here