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ScottSF · 3rd September 2006, 01:02 AM

The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2
Some of this was mentioned in a “Who could play Joker” thread but I thought it would be good to have a place for all rumors and stuff concerning the second Batman movie in the Batman Begins continuity.

According to CNN Christopher Nolan’s will be directing a second Batman movie called The Dark Knight. Christian Bale will return as Batman and Heath Ledger is set to play the Joker. Unfortunately for the fans, it won’t come out until June of 2008. Apparently Nolan is planning to do something very “different” with this next one.

I would take “different” to mean not like a typical Hollywood action flick. Perhaps even more cerebral knowing Nolan’s work

Crymic · 5th September 2006, 04:22 PM

The Joker is really Bruce's father and in the allyway scene is when his transformation became complete.

Jaggy Jai · 17th October 2006, 06:29 PM

Heath Ledger.......??????.......film-making has gone to hell....him as the Joker, now that really is the biggest JOKE of all!!!!!

Foxbat · 17th October 2006, 08:09 PM

I'll reserve judgement until I see the movie. I have to say that I was most impressed by Bale's first outing as the Caped Crusader. Hopefully this will be just as good (if not better)

weaveworld · 17th October 2006, 08:12 PM

I will wait until the movie is released and then vent my fury....

Cloud · 17th October 2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaggy Jai

Heath Ledger.......??????.......film-making has gone to hell....him as the Joker, now that really is the biggest JOKE of all!!!!!

I wonder why you say that. I think Health Ledger would make a fine batman. If you saw his performance in "The Brothers Grimm" you'll notice that he has hypercraziness down pat.

ScottSF · 17th October 2006, 10:55 PM

Ledger as Joker didn't hit me as a perfect match right away but I trust Nolan's instinct. He was bold enough to completely break from the other Batman movies and start over being truer to the comic so his decisions get the benefit of the doubt. Untill I see them that is.

Cloud · 17th October 2006, 10:57 PM

I meant a fine Joker!

Is there a glitch right now that's preventing editing one's own responses? I don't see an edit button.

carrie221 · 18th October 2006, 01:44 AM

I think the movie could be very, very good or very, very bad but I don't see a lot of room for middle ground...

Lissa · 18th October 2006, 02:20 AM

I enjoyed the first one, so hopefully this will prove to be just as good. I liked Batman returns better that the previously made batman movies, although the one with Keaton as Batman was not bad. The others were just to hoakey.

Nesacat · 18th October 2006, 02:26 AM

I really liked Bale's first venture as Batman. The movie returned to the darker, edgier character portrayed in the comics. I think Nolan is definitely on the right path and am inclined to trust his judgement with Ledger.

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt based on his making of Batman Begins.

Winters_Sorrow · 18th October 2006, 11:09 AM

I thought the Nolan Batman was ok and I enjoyed Tim Burton's Batman.

I'm a little peturbed by all this revisionism though. This is the third filmic incarnation of Batman, to go with the second one for Superman. Is it because DC don't have any faith in any of their other characters?
All these "reimaginings" are annoying though, as it renders the earlier films completely pointless if they're done well or they get blugeoned to death by their predecessors if done poorly.
It just exposes the 'play it safe' mentality of Hollywood sometimes and their obsession with franchises or 'cash cows' as they're more appropriately known.

Foxbat · 18th October 2006, 12:32 PM

Whilst I agree with your sentiments about cash cows and playing it safe, Batman has been on celluloid in various forms since 1943. I might add that if you take into account various foreign language versions (such as the Phillipino version of Batman) then the actual number of times Batman has appeared either on film or TV runs well into double figures.

Revisionism is nothing new and it's not just Hollywood that is playing the game.

It does, however, beg the question: whose (if any) is the definitive version?

ravenus · 18th October 2006, 01:32 PM

I don't know about definitive but I thought Nolan's Batman film was definitely boring and overwrought taking ages to tell a story that does nothing to bring me closer to the character or see him as particularly complex (not to mention astoundingly pap dialog like "it's not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you" repeated twice by a scripter who no doubt considers it one of the cleverest lines ever). It reminded me of my slogging through the Fellowship of the Ring. A tiresome journey with little payoff.

Which is not to say that Bale is not a good Batman. The man's a fine actor and definitely put some enthusiasm into the part.

lordoftime · 23rd October 2006, 11:50 PM

Enjoyed Batman Begins and look forward to the sequel!

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3rd September 2006, 01:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
ScottSF ScottSF Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: California Posts: 470	The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2 The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2 Some of this was mentioned in a “Who could play Joker” thread but I thought it would be good to have a place for all rumors and stuff concerning the second Batman movie in the Batman Begins continuity. According to CNN Christopher Nolan’s will be directing a second Batman movie called The Dark Knight. Christian Bale will return as Batman and Heath Ledger is set to play the Joker. Unfortunately for the fans, it won’t come out until June of 2008. Apparently Nolan is planning to do something very “different” with this next one. I would take “different” to mean not like a typical Hollywood action flick. Perhaps even more cerebral knowing Nolan’s work

5th September 2006, 04:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
Crymic Magic Crazed Elf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California Posts: 163	Re: The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2 The Joker is really Bruce's father and in the allyway scene is when his transformation became complete.

17th October 2006, 06:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jaggy Jai Hero To The Damned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Midlands Posts: 50	Re: The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2 Heath Ledger.......??????.......film-making has gone to hell....him as the Joker, now that really is the biggest JOKE of all!!!!!

17th October 2006, 08:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Foxbat Haggis Connoisseur Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,942	Re: The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2 I'll reserve judgement until I see the movie. I have to say that I was most impressed by Bale's first outing as the Caped Crusader. Hopefully this will be just as good (if not better)

17th October 2006, 08:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
weaveworld ~Behold my sparklies!~ Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Dunbartonshire Posts: 588	Re: The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2 I will wait until the movie is released and then vent my fury....

17th October 2006, 10:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
ScottSF ScottSF Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: California Posts: 470	Re: The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2 Ledger as Joker didn't hit me as a perfect match right away but I trust Nolan's instinct. He was bold enough to completely break from the other Batman movies and start over being truer to the comic so his decisions get the benefit of the doubt. Untill I see them that is.

17th October 2006, 10:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cloud Rahvin's Grammy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 405	Re: The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2 I meant a fine Joker! Is there a glitch right now that's preventing editing one's own responses? I don't see an edit button.

18th October 2006, 01:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
carrie221 Darkness is my friend :) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 711	Re: The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2 I think the movie could be very, very good or very, very bad but I don't see a lot of room for middle ground...

18th October 2006, 02:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
Lissa Darkness Follows Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 120	Re: The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2 I enjoyed the first one, so hopefully this will prove to be just as good. I liked Batman returns better that the previously made batman movies, although the one with Keaton as Batman was not bad. The others were just to hoakey.

18th October 2006, 02:26 AM	#11 (permalink)
Nesacat The Cat Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Malaysia Posts: 3,292	Re: The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2 I really liked Bale's first venture as Batman. The movie returned to the darker, edgier character portrayed in the comics. I think Nolan is definitely on the right path and am inclined to trust his judgement with Ledger. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt based on his making of Batman Begins.

18th October 2006, 11:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
Winters_Sorrow Unreg. Mutant Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tyne and Wear Posts: 3,212	Re: The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2 I thought the Nolan Batman was ok and I enjoyed Tim Burton's Batman. I'm a little peturbed by all this revisionism though. This is the third filmic incarnation of Batman, to go with the second one for Superman. Is it because DC don't have any faith in any of their other characters? All these "reimaginings" are annoying though, as it renders the earlier films completely pointless if they're done well or they get blugeoned to death by their predecessors if done poorly. It just exposes the 'play it safe' mentality of Hollywood sometimes and their obsession with franchises or 'cash cows' as they're more appropriately known.

18th October 2006, 12:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
Foxbat Haggis Connoisseur Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,942	Re: The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2 Whilst I agree with your sentiments about cash cows and playing it safe, Batman has been on celluloid in various forms since 1943. I might add that if you take into account various foreign language versions (such as the Phillipino version of Batman) then the actual number of times Batman has appeared either on film or TV runs well into double figures. Revisionism is nothing new and it's not just Hollywood that is playing the game. It does, however, beg the question: whose (if any) is the definitive version?

18th October 2006, 01:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
ravenus Heretic Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: India Posts: 1,730	Re: The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2 I don't know about definitive but I thought Nolan's Batman film was definitely boring and overwrought taking ages to tell a story that does nothing to bring me closer to the character or see him as particularly complex (not to mention astoundingly pap dialog like "it's not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you" repeated twice by a scripter who no doubt considers it one of the cleverest lines ever). It reminded me of my slogging through the Fellowship of the Ring. A tiresome journey with little payoff. Which is not to say that Bale is not a good Batman. The man's a fine actor and definitely put some enthusiasm into the part.

23rd October 2006, 11:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
lordoftime My name is Infernus Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 154	Re: The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2 Enjoyed Batman Begins and look forward to the sequel!