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[Commonmind]

Originally Posted by Jaire

Not exclusive.



They are outselling the 360 on a weekly basis all over the world, except NA, and are over taking them on comparable sales. (ie. when the 360 was out at this certain time, the PS3 sold more).

North America is the 360s final hold.

Right, but in the meantime 360 units are still selling well, which means that Sony is going to have a lot of ground to cover because they're still far behind Microsoft (and Nintendo) and they're competing with progressing sales numbers. In other words, the PS3 could outsell the 360 for an entire year and still not make up the deficit.

[Overread]

I think the wii will suffer as christmas heads away. Unless they can pull up thier socks and make some really quality games - rather than just party games, I think the Wii will fall beind

[Lucien21]

The PS3 has a long way to go.

However the Wii is kicking ass.





Plus the PS3 and 360 sales are pretty similar so they are not closing the gap (in the USA and Europe anyway)

VG Chartz | Hardware Comparison Charts

[Overread]

hmm its doing better than I thought it would - much better; though I will be interested to see the stats in a year - I reckon the Wii won;t keep up this lead - its just too odd a device (unlike the DS which rules the handheld market)

[Lucien21]

The DS sales are amazing



Even the PSP (Which sucks)

[Overread]

the problem sony has is that the DS gets games that are for hand held - the PSP was full of ports of games for too long - thus they were half hearted attempts at making a portable PS2 - which is not what handhelds are about.
I think they are getting the message, but its come too late for the psp

and the films part - cool idea, but like tv on mobil phones - way way to small to be enjoyable - and people don't like having to buy two of the same film -- plus many film groups pulled out because of production costs.

[Lenny]

As of Jan 3rd the 360 had shipped 17.7 million units.

MS: 17.7 million 360s sold - Xbox 360 News at GameSpot

Nice number for the PS3. I reckon Sony might succeed in getting their 11 million figure by the end of their fiscal year in March.

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PSP - If you've got a PS3, then later this year (with a firmware update), you'll be able to rip Blu-ray films to your PS3, and transfer them to the PSP. Sony announced it at their CES conference a couple of days ago.

[Overread]

interesting idea -though it sounds a might like the rip feature in music - and the film ripping industry is bigger than music (at least its talked about more). They must be putting some serious safguards in for that -- otherwise I can see film producers avoiding blue ray

[Lenny]

On the contrary - the Blu-ray camp now holds 70% of the market share for high definition film sales. And seeing as Sony is probably the biggest pusher of Blu-ray, as well as a founding member, they can do as they please. Yeah, they'll probably put some security features in, maybe some more DRM safeguards, but the fact is the feature is available. Methinks it might come around the time the Blu-ray 2.0 profile is released.

And you've got to admit, it's a damn sight better than UMD discs and having to buy the same film twice to be able to watch it on the PSP. With the new 16gb Pro Duo Stick that Sony are releasing, too, it makes the PSP that bit more desirable. Why bother with portable DVD players when you've got something that stores many Blu-ray films, and will play them in good quality?

[Cayal]

Originally Posted by Lenny

As of Jan 3rd the 360 had shipped 17.7 million units.

MS: 17.7 million 360s sold - Xbox 360 News at GameSpot

Nice number for the PS3. I reckon Sony might succeed in getting their 11 million figure by the end of their fiscal year in March.

MS SHIPPED 17.7 million, they've sold 16 million.

As for Euro sales, PS3 is dominating so much the 360 is almost non-existant except for England.

N4G.com : Worldwide Chartz for Week Ending Jan 5th, 2008 (Not including Japan yet)

PS3 begins to overtake Xbox360 in sales since launch : TechVat

The Bitbag » 1.2 Million Playstation 3 Units Sold After Black Friday

Japan it is not even close either.

[Lenny]

The general stats in Japan are about 7:1 (PS3 to 360), and over the Christmas the 360 pulled it back a little to 5:1.

The list on the last page is interesting:

Total: (Not Including Japan)

DS: 508,273
Wii: 335,377
PS2: 195,584
PS3: 194,494
360: 193,343
PSP: 188,810

Breakdown as follows:

America

DS: 207,255
Wii: 188,589
PS3: 69,298
360: 104,427
PSP: 76,869

Europe/Others

DS: 301,018
Wii: 146,788
PS3: 125,196
360: 88,916
PSP: 111,941

It really is in Europe rather than America that the PS3 is making waves. But I think that's always been the case - outside of Japan, Sony and their platforms have always done best in Europe, I believe.

[Cayal]

North America is the only place where Sony isn't outselling the 360 (maybe England).

[Lenny]

VG Chartz | European Weekly Chart

Second chart.

In Germany, Spain and Italy the PS3 has outsold the 360, and in France it's coming close to it.

[Commonmind]

Originally Posted by Overread

hmm its doing better than I thought it would - much better; though I will be interested to see the stats in a year - I reckon the Wii won;t keep up this lead - its just too odd a device (unlike the DS which rules the handheld market)

The very reason the DS is doing so well is because of its gimmick. The Wii is doing much the same thing, albeit in a different format. Those party games mentioned earlier are one of the main draws of the platform, and much like the DS's plethora of simplistic titles, the Wii's library compliments the system. Nintendo was trying to achieve penetration in the casual market, and the sales numbers and types of games being released for the Wii are evidence that their goals are being met and that they're trying to deliver the experience they promised.

For every individual that claims the Wii's only hope for longevity is to release a AAA title on par with Twilight Princess or Mario Galaxy, there are quite a few individuals who are more than happy playing Super Monkey Ball, Wario Ware and Carnival Games.