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Old 26th June 2008, 06:17 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Memories of Ice...good grief!

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Memories of Ice, as this very thread mentions, is full of quite interesting revelations, but there's only been one, which I've just read, that's made me exclaim "Oh, my god!!" when I worked it out.

Baudin is the Knight of Death! Whoa! I'm glad he didn't die though (well, he did, but you know what I mean...)
Yeah I agree. I didn't really see anything that shocked me. I wouldn't really call them revelations but explanations instead.

Although I missed the reference to Baudin being Knight of Death until you just pointed it out so maybe I am not reading properly
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And Quick Ben, who was one of my favourite characters from Gardens of the Moon, just keeps on getting better. He's an awesome character.
Yes. Yes he is

I've only read the first 3 of Malazan so I hope we get to see more of him in the following books
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Old 26th June 2008, 07:39 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I'm about 250 pages from the end of this book and I'm thoroughly enjoying it....

I am about 250 pages from the end right now as well and hope to spend some time this weekend finishing the book. So far it's awesome.
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Old 26th June 2008, 08:00 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Memories of Ice...good grief!

I'm now a mere twelve pages from the end. Deadhouse Gates finished with an almighty, horrible shock, but the ending of this one is more subtle, and very moving...

OK, and now I've finished. That was a very good read, indeed.

On to the next one, I suppose...
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Re: Memories of Ice...good grief!

Is it POV heavy like a lot of characters to keep track of? I got a bit miffed with DHG and was confused (not as much as GOTM) but it was definitely not an easy read. I have MOI lined up and hope it delivers better than DHG. Maybe I read DHG too fast and did not enjoy it as much as I would have.

The only problem I have is that he skips things and you are just automatically supposed to know it just happened, I guess if you create a big world like that you can't write about everything.
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Old 23rd August 2008, 07:17 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Lots of different PoVs, yeah - all of his books are like that. Though he seems to stick with one or two for big chunks (you'll see why).

The first few books are full of things that make you scratch your head and wonder if you blacked out for a chapter, but they do eventually get explained (well, most of them do), and if not by Erikson then there's a slim chance they'll be described by his partner in crime, Ian C. Esslemont, whose first book deals specifically with Kellanved and Dancer's last day/night.
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Re: Memories of Ice...good grief!

I don't think MOI is as bad (for want of a better word) as some of the others. There really are only 3-4 story arcs with the Malazans/Rake; the Grey Swords; Guntle; Toc and Tattersail. It's heaps easier to follow than both DhG and HoC which I am reading now.

House of Chains is a bit of a nightmare at the moment but maybe that's because I am not reading it a lot so I forget things but at this stage we have Fiddler, Kalam, Crokus, Gamet, Karsa, Heboric, Onrack as the different story arcs plus a lot more things going on in the background. It's hard keeping on top of it so MOI is a bit of a piece of cake compared to that
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Re: Memories of Ice...good grief!

Hurrah!!! I've finally finished and can now go to sleep at a reasonable time for a change, instead of going to sleep at around 1-2 in the morning cos I couldn't put it down!!!

SPOILERS AHEAD, BE WARNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So anyway, that was a great book, really enjoyed the Capustan siege, the death of the grey swords of Fener was nicely done as Fener 'fell' in DHG and I did wonder so what at the time, it tied in quite nicely I thought.
Didn't really get the point of Gruntle's rise to Mortal sword, surely a god would pick someone who believed in the god in the first place? Although the defense of the tennemant block by Gruntle and Co was very well written, I could clearly picture the lower floors of the building hidden under a pile of bodies, each floor packed with dead, the building leaking blood, ghastly!!

What was the point of the necromancers (bruchelean and Brooch?) they're part of the story was pointless as far as I could see.
Loved the Iktovian story, felt so sorry for the guy, although I did think he would ascend at some point and was supprised that seems to be the last we hear of him.

Why oh why did the Malazans split forces? I just didn't get that! Was it just an attempt to defeat the seer before the arrival of Brood? and therefore claim the city as part of the empire? Seems a bit of a daft idea, what with it being stated earlier that the whole combined army would be less than the seer's forces.
I liked the end with Paran blessing the Bridgeburners and hope that there be a nice supprise return in some future novel with the return of Whiskey Jack etc, to be honest, Up till then i did think it was a set up by WJ to fake his own death and thereofore get to realise his dream of leaving the army and all the battles behind.

Anyway, thats enough from me for now I just bought House of Chains today so am expecting more late nights in the near future .
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Re: Memories of Ice...good grief!

I also finished reading this book not too long ago, and I agree with everyone here...awesome.

In response to your thoughts on Bauchelain and Korbal Broach, nj, I was thinking the same thing while reading the book...it was like they were almost included as comic relief sometimes, being repeatedly thwarted by people who they underestimated...something that Bauchelain refers to as a 'curse' at one stage But in answer, I think Erikson has done/is doing a few novellas that pretty much exclusively follow the travels of the necromancers and Emancipor Reese. So maybe the reason that they were so prominent in the book, without contributing hugely to the storyline, was to give them a bit of an introduction in preparation for the novellas.

Look up 'Emancipor Reese' in Wikipedia and you'll see what I'm talking about.
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the books about Bauchelain and Korbal Broach: in a nice sigle volume worth every penny if you ask me. There are plenty of the single volumes on ebay btw
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