A World Out Of Time

[AE35Unit]

I have a hardback copy of this book(first UK edition 1977) and its an interesting story of a man waking up in the future,but what universe does the book belong in,or is it truly standalone? Did Niven ever revisit the world of this book? And might my book be worth something?

[EmperorClobbersaurus]

It's in "The State" universe, or WOOT (World Out Of Time) Universe.
Anyway, (Legacy of Heorot, Beouwulf's Children), (Integral Trees, Smoke Ring), and (Destiny's Road)
Each two or one series of books, noted by parathesis, are pretty much stand alone and dont influence each other
But they are in the same universe
Any others that i have missed..like short stories, please let me know

[AE35Unit]

Hmmm don't think I've heard of Destiny's Road,
must have a google

[Dave]

I think Destiny's Road is his best book. Not everyone likes it mind you.

I have a paperback copy of A World Out Of Time. I don't know if there is any market for his old collections, but I do know that a few of my eighties Niven collections are out of print. Most of those short stories are available in new collections like N-Space though.

[EmperorClobbersaurus]

i like how niven switches his universe around with WOOT
in Known Space, once u go to the stars you still are a part of humanity as defined by the Earth, UN, ARM, etc
But with WOOT, the colonist are seperated, each and of themselves worlds out of time/tune with one another
even those returning to the Earth are still cut off
i wonder if Niven's collaborations with Pournelle and his CoDom Universe have had any affect
still ur right Dave, this universe rocks

[Lensman]

Correction: The Legacy of Heorot and Beowulf's Children are not set in the universe of "The State". The other three novels mentioned are.

Generally speaking, Niven keeps his collaboration and solo-author universes separate from each other. Fleet of Worlds is the first time he's worked with a collaborator on a story in a universe (Known Space) created by Niven alone. Legacy and Beowulf's are both collaborations, so that's a good rule-of-thumb indication they're not set in "The State" universe, quite aside from any other indications.

[chrispenycate]

Just have to mention "Rammer", the short story that was expanded into "World out of time"
But the Kzinsi exist in known space, and there is a huge number of stories written in that universe by a wide selection of authors (the man-kzin wars, volumes 1- n, where n is larger than ten, but without a bibliography I can't define)
Some of the stories are quite good.

[Lensman]

Originally Posted by chrispenycate

the man-kzin wars, volumes 1- n, where n is larger than ten, but without a bibliography I can't define)
Some of the stories are quite good.

MKW bibliography at my website here:

http://www.freewebs.com/knownspace/biblio.htm#MKW

Of course critical opinion differs, but in general I think many fans agree the first three volumes contain some very good stories, but the series runs downhill thereafter.