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Old 5th December 2007, 09:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Gods

I was reading Silverthorn last night and after the first scene with the possessed Nighthawk in the palace I started wondering about all the gods in the books and their station and what they stand for.

Here is a copy from a site I found. Its pretty interesting

The Gods

The world of the gods of Midkemia is real. That means that the gods really exist. There are two types of gods: the Higher, or Supervising Gods and the Lower Gods. At the beginning of the Chaos wars there were seven Higher Gods and one hundred Lower Gods. At the end there were only four Higher Gods and twelve Lower Gods left.

The Higher Gods are connected with the basic matter of the world. They show no interest in the conduct of man. Prayers aren't heard, an answer is not forthcoming. From the four Higher Gods that remained we know: Abram-Sev, the giver of laws, the thunderer ; Ev-Dem, the worker from within, the calculator of chances ; Graf, the weaver of wishes ; and Helbinor, He Who Abstaines. The other three were Ishap, The One Above All ; Arch-Indar, the goddess of good and Nalar, the destroyer.

Prayers are made to the Lower Gods. They can be described as forces of nature who are prepared to interact with man. They have a soul and a consciousness, and the more people pray to them, the more powerfull they become. That's why supposedly 'dead' gods can return. The Lower Gods who have dealings with Midkemia are divided into three categories:


The orderly gods:
Silban: the mother of the earth, the bringer of crops, the dreamless sleeper
Sung the White: the follower of one path
Ka-hooli: the beater of refugees, the indefatigable pursuer, the wargod of revenge, the tracer of the truth behind mysteries
Astalon: the righteous, the builder

The neutral gods:
Ban-ath: the cunning evader, the teaser, the walker through the night, the silent thief of valuable merchandise
Kilian: the singer of green silences, the collector of sweet pleasures, the goddess of love
Tith-Onanka: the wargod, the tactician, the fortunate warrior
Dala: the shield of the weak, the goddess of passive strenght, the patroness

The chaotic gods:
Ruthia: she who dances through the hearts of men, the goddess of unreturned love, the lady of fortune
Guis-wa: the howler under the moon, the hunter with the red jaw, the lover of forbidden knowledge, the one who desires everything
Prandur: the burner of cities, the spreader of confusion, the bringer of light
Lims-Kragma: the stretcher of snares, the mistress of death

Besides these gods there's made a mention of four 'disappeared' gods, among them Sarig, the god of magic. These four will return sometime.



The Valheru

The Valheru are better known among man by the name Dragonrulers. They were creatures with the power of a god, but they were mortal. They were very self-centred, what resulted in numerous quarrels and mutual bickering. Originally they came from Midkemia, but later they dispersed and plundered many worlds, mostly from the back of a dragon. These dragons possessed the ability to travel through space and time. Fortunately, the Valheru had no knowledge of the Gallery of Worlds. The Dragonrulers didn't survive the Chaos Wars, but their souls continued to exist as 'The Enemy' and as such caused problems for man during the period in which Raymond E. Feist starts his history writing.



Other intelligent beings

At Midkemia more intelligent beings can be found which now and then emerge in the stories: gnomes, trolls and giants, that served under the moredhel in the Brotherhood of the Unholy Path. Further, there are goblins which live in the dwarf-mines. And there are various species of dragons, of which the golden dragons are the most intelligent and which, once come to full growth, can change their shapes. Further more there are the Panthatians - snake people - and the tigerpeople

I'm not sure , but I think if I was in this world I might follow Guis-wa
wow.. does that make me evil..?
What god would you follow if any?

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Old 5th December 2007, 09:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: The Gods

Ka-Hooli sounds good to me, does he actually beat refugees. perhaps he has a big stick for such purposes?
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Old 5th December 2007, 09:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You know, other than the beating of refugees I liked all his other titles..
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Old 6th December 2007, 06:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Ban-ath for me.
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Old 6th December 2007, 06:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'd pick Silban
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Old 11th December 2007, 11:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Tith-Onanka 4 me (makes sense since im in the army)
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Old 14th December 2007, 01:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i remember that when pug goes to speak to lims kragma sometime in the first three books he and tomas pass thru this timb with alla these dead gods in and one of the headstones is for ononka-tith

tomas then explains that the two gods ononka and tith were both cut in half during the chaos wars and ended up withone half of their body dead but the other alive so the other gods just stuck the two live halves together to create a whole person and buried the two dead halves.
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Old 17th December 2007, 07:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I would pick Ishap
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