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Old 30th September 2007, 01:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Benjen Stark-Coldhand's

I have ehard this theory before and i don't know if there are any tips for this to beleived...but Does anybody have any insight to this cause I really want to know the mystery behind coldhand's...and I jsut want to know if Benjen is dead or not cause he was a total BADASS
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Old 1st October 2007, 12:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Benjen Stark-Coldhand's

Really? He was a total badass? He had like 4 paragraphs of time "on-screen" and never accomplished anything of import during them I dont think.

There is absolutely no proof one way or the other that Benjen=Coldhands. It may be so and some people think it is but theres just nothing there to point the way....so there ya go.
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Old 1st October 2007, 03:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Benjen Stark-Coldhand's

There is a long thread on this but at this point I'm too lazy to go find it...

I don't think Benjen is Coldhands. Bran would of recognized him right away.
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Old 1st October 2007, 09:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Benjen Stark-Coldhand's

ha thank you...and i was not talking about him being awesome in the sort'sthat he accomplished alot in the books...I was referring to the amount of respect he got from the other night's watch...
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Old 1st October 2007, 10:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Benjen Stark-Coldhand's

In all fairness he's a trueblood nobleborn Stark. If his character is normal and nothing special, its already normal for him to have lots of respect from the other men in the Nights Watch. merely from where he and the nights watch comes from, its history.

Then again he was first ranger, still, whilst i think the NW is underrated in many ways on this forum compared to southern knights, I dont think that in itself is such a big accomplished. Its clear that nobleborn seem to be rated higher when getting high up positions in the NW.
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Old 1st October 2007, 10:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Benjen Stark-Coldhand's

It is because the nobleborn are trained to be knight's..well not al lare trained to be knight's but they have a sense of training....and not only are most of the rest of the watch murderer's theives..and otehr sort's of criminals...Would u want somebody like that leading your rangers....no....So when it comes to that i think it is intended that the rangers are lead by someone that has experience
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It is because the nobleborn are trained to be knight's..well not al lare trained to be knight's but they have a sense of training....and not only are most of the rest of the watch murderer's theives..and otehr sort's of criminals...Would u want somebody like that leading your rangers....no....So when it comes to that i think it is intended that the rangers are lead by someone that has experience
Such things dont really matter after years spent on the wall. Its just inbred in westerosi culture. Plus, Stark blood seems special to the NW
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Old 2nd October 2007, 08:56 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Benjen Stark-Coldhand's

I always considered him a badass, its true he dosnt get much time in the books, but when he is talked about there is no doubt he is a Stark, he ventured deep into the Lands Behind the Wall, to find proof of the threat that existed there, he and his men also discovered all the "Dragonblood Weapons" and buried them, just think of the other people who ventures into the North Halfhand and such, im convinced Benjen is a badass of dimensions but no i dont believe he is Coldhands, however COldhands might know where in the World Benjen is. One thing i was wondering why did Benjen join the NIghtwatch in the first place ?
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Old 2nd October 2007, 02:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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lubbock, the dragonglass thingie, is nothing more then speculation by fans. there is no proof whatsoever that benjen buried those things at the fist.
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Old 3rd October 2007, 12:01 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Benjen Stark-Coldhand's

well I think that coldhand's wether he be benjen or not was once a night's watch...and i think that he or something else buried those dragonglass in order to help the night's watch beat the other's
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Re: Benjen Stark-Coldhand's

There is no way Coldhands in Benjen Stark. It's too predictable, and too convenient. GRRM has been anything but. But... if I'm wrong, I should very much enjoy if it WERE indeed Benjen Stark.
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Re: Benjen Stark-Coldhand's

I agree, it seems way to convenient to be Benjen. I still wonder if he is some character that we have been introduced to before that has "disappeared" or if it is a new character altogether.
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Old 3rd October 2007, 03:43 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Benjen Stark-Coldhand's

It's really hard to say, Stark Winter, but convenience is not something this author has not given us. He's offed people that most readers want to enjoy from the start, and he's allowed characters that we dislike to live prosperous lives. One thing is for sure, that the wall IS indeed bound by magic. I don't believe for a second that Coldhands was never a member of the Night's Watch. He could be, but magic in this world is apparently beyond superstition, and the spell(s) preventing his accent beneath the wall could be just that... just a spell. Or the old ways. Or honor. Or the fear of hurting those that have warm blood running through their veins. Or all of those. Still three books to go, and I will be rabid for each volume!
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