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Old 18th September 2007, 08:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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End of TV Commercials

With the introduction of DVR, and Tivo advertizers are changing their marketing ways. Product placement, and banner pop up adds durring the TV shows is becoming more prevelant. I for one hate the pop up ads. They are usually accompanied with an annoying noise to make sure they divert you attention from the show your watching to their ad. I do however understand why they are doing it.

Why pay for a commercial that will never be watched?

Do you think that eventually the standard five minute block of commercials every fifteen minutes will be replaced with product placement, and pop up adds?
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Old 18th September 2007, 08:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Popup ads during films and TV - no don't do this to me - I find TV today generally lower in standard but I don't want to see popups in one my shows.

Also consider the effect of popups on the internet - no credable company really uses them as there are popup blockers in place - thus defeating the advertising. If give a choice a block of commercials is far more preferable - you can ignor them totally and boil the kettle.
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Old 18th September 2007, 09:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: End of TV Commercials

the inventor of commercials should have been burned at the stake
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Old 18th September 2007, 11:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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A fact few people ever realise until they are told is that the BBC has no comercial advertising between or during shows - its all thier own advertising for thier own shows. As for the worst advert channels - sky channels - so many adverts.
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Old 18th September 2007, 11:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: End of TV Commercials

Adverts are a poison to TV watching! Apparantly Sweden will now change the rules about how many adverts there can be in TV shows, so soon we'll maybe have 30% adverts like americans.

Though, it must really help the sales of DVD's...
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Old 18th September 2007, 11:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: End of TV Commercials

Yup, but the BBC can have its moments. You were right about Sky, though;

Star Trek TNG;
BBC2 / 1 episode 45min
Sky 1/ 1 episode 1 hour.

That's 15min of adverts, which would cause riots on terrestrial TV.
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Old 18th September 2007, 11:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: End of TV Commercials

Or the ripping off on the internet!
I would not mind so much if the money generated went towards quality productions, but recently it seems that the more money tv and film producers get the lower the quality of show they make (example - cost of origianl alien filme was less than Segorny Weaver's (SP) fee for resurrection - and yet the original is a far better film - story wise)
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Old 18th September 2007, 11:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: End of TV Commercials

over here it's worse

any show will be interrupted for about 8-12 minutes,because of the need to advertise for their own programs(LATER THIS WEEK!!!!!!!,don't miss it),

and i

think i

might feel

a rant coming


have to suppress it
See,football matches on commercial TV,with words like MSN/SMS your nomination for "man of the Match,calls cost less than,et ******* cetera
marching across you rfield of view
and apart from the commercial blocks, the ******* irritating 'this program was brought tou you by'

and the guests,who are never just guest,but
from

Jones & Jones Real Estate,but hey


we are not advertising here,we just happen to work for that specific company,which,coincidentally ,sponsors this program
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Old 18th September 2007, 11:45 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: End of TV Commercials

Just a thought which occured to me which could kill two birds with one stone;
films often end up being far longer than 2 hours long before cutting and after cutting often leave out bits that we get in the DVD. Now what producers could do is make say 3 hour long films and put a commerical beak in the middle - advertising is bad but it does let you go to the loo and get more popcorn (so the cinema will be happy). Just a thought and slightly off topic
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Old 19th September 2007, 03:46 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: End of TV Commercials

Programming has to be paid for in some way. I can accept commercial breaks because I know that without them the programme would not have been made. The BBC has no commercials, but instead we have this huge extra tax known as a TV License Fee. Is that any better?? Many people argue not.

Pop-up ads -- no, I can't say I would like those. And I do already block them on the www.

But the US has always had more intrusive ads than the UK. I've seen clips from those old black and white soap operas and quiz shows where everything stops while someone comes on and promotes a soap powder or pack of cigarettes.

As for it helping the sale of DVDs - well product placement in films has already gone too far. "I Robot" and "Casino Royale" are just two examples that come instantly to mind where far too much time is given over to the designer label of a variety of items.
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Old 19th September 2007, 10:44 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: End of TV Commercials

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That's 15min of adverts, which would cause riots on terrestrial TV.
Channel 4 (& related channels) aren't far off by now - I was watching a show a few weeks ago & there was an ad break right after the title credits

I've actually stopped watching some shows via the TV & get them in (*cough*) 'alternative' ways.
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Old 21st September 2007, 03:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: End of TV Commercials

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I was watching a show a few weeks ago & there was an ad break right after the title credits
This used to be common in the US. Then, to keep viewers from changing the channel, they started going straight into the show.

My family records everything and fast forwards. Or, since I know there will be 8 1/2 minutes of commercials per half hour, I pause for the appropriate amount of time, do something productive, and then start watching later.

I really hate when the pop ups make ridiculous noises, or block an important part of the scene I'm watching. If the programmers feel the need to put them there, fine, but don't ruin the show I'm watching. It just makes me not want to watch your channel anymore.
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Old 21st September 2007, 05:09 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: End of TV Commercials

Sometimes I've even thought those annoying noises were a part of the show and wondered why there seemed to be little or no reaction to it.
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Old 21st September 2007, 10:45 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: End of TV Commercials

I really can't complain about TV commercials, as they are an important part of what puts food into my stomach. Indeed, when friends bring me exotic video tapes from far-off lands (like Brent Cross) I have been known to fast forward the film and watch the ads, and several times have sat through "la nuit des publivores", four hours of the best commercials from all over the planet; perverted, no?

Cinema owners don't like long films, as entries are generally fixed price, and fewer showings per day means less money coming in. I doubt whether advertisers would offer enough to compensate for this, since, unlike television where you have a potentially enornous audience the capacity of a cinema is fixed (and considerably smaller than in my youth, and rarely filled to capacity, either) so I forsee films being shown without breaks for some time.

Rock concerts, now; they've all got these video walls so you can see the musicians as something bigger than grasshoppers, and breaking even on a big spectacle tour means leaving out all towns where you can't muster 10,000 fans – wouldn't it be cool to have "and now a word from our sponsors" bellowing out from the PA? No? Not even if it meant that a big group could play Kalamazoo, Michigan (well, they all do anyway, but that's because of the Gibson factory) or Stoke Penge?
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Old 21st September 2007, 11:14 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: End of TV Commercials

If you want to read something amusing about advertising then read this site. I'll bet you weren't aware that it's the God-given right every red-blooded human being to exploit his fellows through advertising, whether they want it or not. And that blocking advertising is "theft". The consumer's choice in the matter is entirely irrelevant because it prevents the advert carrier from making money, and it's just downright evil to stand in the way of somebody trying to make a profit.

In other words, the owner of the site above is a complete twat. I shall continue to use Adblock Plus, happy in the knowledge that I'm depriving people like him of their livelihoods.
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