And the winner is... Evil!

[Quokka]

I remember watching an 80's horror movie as a kid, I thought it was called Creepers which isn't turning up so I must be wrong with the title but either way this was your basic group of teens in a house, getting killed off by monsters one by one. The only thing was, just as the last one is escaping.... they die, the baddies actually win!

At the time I thought this was brilliant and was wondering what other movies are out there where things don't actually turn out ok, where the bad guys finally have their day. Event Horizion would be another one and Mouth of Madness I suppose but any others? not just horror anything really...


EDIT: warning, this whole thread is likely to be one big spoiler

[Bant Warick]

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without a doubt my favourite film ending has got to be descent! The moment she woke up and released she was still trapped in the cave, then the zoom out to reveal how utterly lost she actually was will stick with me for a very long time whenever I go caving again!

[roddglenn]

Yep that Descent ending was very good.

Invasion of the Body Snatchers is another - the version that particularly sticks with me is the 1978 version where Donald Sutherland jabs an accusing finger towards Veronica Cartwright and lets out that nerve-jangling scream.

[The_Warrior]

Open Water? It's not really fition horror, but more atmospheric and a reall tone to it. I'll just say they don't swim away on barrels.

[Delvo]

There was a TV miniseries in the 1980s about the Soviets having invaded the USA and a resistance force trying to boot them back out. All I know is that my sister told me they failed in the end. I think it might have starred Patrick Swayze.

[unclejack]

Delvo the name of that movie is Red Dawn and stars Patric Swayze. But they don't all die in the end so that isn't the movie he's talkin about.

[Aerandir]

WOOOOLVERIIIINNNEEESSSS!!!!

Everyone dies in Resorvoir Dogs, not horror though...

I guess you could say that evil wins in all the Friday the 13th, and Nightmare on Elmstreet movies. Although there is usually a survivor or two they tend to get it in the next installment.

[dustinzgirl]

Originally Posted by Delvo

There was a TV miniseries in the 1980s about the Soviets having invaded the USA and a resistance force trying to boot them back out. All I know is that my sister told me they failed in the end. I think it might have starred Patrick Swayze.

Red Dawn.

Probably one of my favorite movies ever. (ok, you guys, you know I have like, 10000 favorite movies ever, right? LOL)

That movie was AWESOME. And yes, everyone dies except two of the freedom fighting kids, which made the movie even better.

[Sephiroth]

Primal Fear. Edward Norton gets off scot-free at the end........

[Delvo]

Some would include "The Usual Suspects", but a pretty good case can be made that it couldn't really be the getaway for the villain that we're supposed to think it is, because there are too many logic holes in that idea, because the police have so many new ways to come after him now that he hasn't got much time left as a free man.

"The Last Samurai" is about the end of the Samurai period in Japan, from the Samurai's point of view, including a final battle in which they stupidly charge Gatling guns and cannons and a field full of rifles, armed with swords and spears, with the predictable result. (The American who's brought over to Japan to train their new modern army in modern Western military ways is in it, and ends up siding with the Samurai, so people made fun of it for supposedly casting a white guy as "the Last Samurai", but it didn't really call him that. He was just there ALONG WITH the last Samurai... which could be seen as a plural in this case or as a reference to the individual played by co-star Ken Watanabe.)

[roddglenn]

I really liked Red Dawn too actually, although I haven't seen it for ages. Had quite a cast - As well as Swayze, there was C Thomas Howell, Lea Thompson, Charlie Sheen, Jennifer Grey, Harry Dean Stanton and Powers Boothe. It wasn't a mini series though - it was a film.

The Last Samurai was very good too. A lot of people slated it just because it had Tom "I'm in love!!!!" Cruise in it. And yes the title did refer to Ken Watanabe's character, not Tom's.

[unclejack]

Originally Posted by roddglenn

I really liked Red Dawn too actually, although I haven't seen it for ages. Had quite a cast - As well as Swayze, there was C Thomas Howell, Lea Thompson, Charlie Sheen, Jennifer Grey, Harry Dean Stanton and Powers Boothe. It wasn't a mini series though - it was a film.

The Last Samurai was very good too. A lot of people slated it just because it had Tom "I'm in love!!!!" Cruise in it. And yes the title did refer to Ken Watanabe's character, not Tom's.

Red Dawn is a good movie to watch as a kid right along with Toy Soldiers but when you look at it as an adult with a strong conception of reality you have to know it could never happen. In my opinion it's just not a very believeable premise.

[roddglenn]

No, I agree, it's not a particularly believable premise and neither are about 90% of all films ever made, but its entertaining and that's all that it's meant to be. Having said that as I said, I haven't seen it in ages, so my opinion might change if I was to see it now as a mid 30s adult.

[2nddan]

In Red Dawn all but two of the main characters may die but the film fades out on a monument that says something along the lines of these people died to save the US, so evil didn't win.

In the remake of Dawn of the Dead all the main characters are wiped out when they go ashore on a island that they think is free of the walking dead.

[Quokka]

That's probably more what I was looking for. Although I'm happy for the thread to wander where ever it goes what I was really looking for wasn't so much the baddies survive or only a few 'good' people survive but that complete victory the All hope is lost ending.