Science Fiction Fantasy
Science Fiction & Fantasy Portal:   |  HOME   |  FORUM   |   Other forums   |   Amazon.co.uk   |   Amazon.com

 


Go Back   Science Fiction Fantasy Chronicles: forums > Books and Writing > Authors > David Eddings
Register Forum RULES Members List Gallery Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread
Old 29th August 2007, 12:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
Harleyquin
Registered User
 
Harleyquin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: UK: ENGLAND:
Posts: 76
Why do you keep reading??

From the dizzy heights of the Belgariad through to the abyss of the Dreamers we’ve doggedly stuck by Eddings.

Nobody can argue (at least sensibly) that The Malloreonwas not a re-write of the Belgariad with some tweaks… that the Elenium was a not re-write of the Belgariad… Tamuli = Malloreon.

Every character from the Belgariad was the same in every series after it – sure their names changed a little but their base characters where clearly evident, like Your reading the Eleninum and you KNOW Sephrenia is Polgara etc...

You can see the end coming a mile away – you KNOW that in the next “instalment” of the series (such as the Malloreon) the plot will basically ignore the whole basic plot of the first series - the whole setting the universe correct forever – oh hang on it wasn’t “quite” done so lets do it again but THIS time its actually the last time – honest guv.

So why oh why do we love him so? (Ok confession - I actually believe in my heart it was leihs stories but David put them into real englished and embelisehd the basic plot to it expanded into a book rather than short story)

I totally adored the Belgariad – maybe because I was just in my early teens when I was reading it. Maybe for the first time I saw really good female characters (very rare tbh), maybe it was just a nice easy read where you didn’t have to engage brain too much but got lost in the beautiful language and the world mythology – actually what I think it was for me was the Begarath / Polgara bits – I was expecting the story to be typical where they would be antagonists – the goodie and the baddie – then u discover there a lot like a real father and daughter tend to be, bickering and squabbling, Pol always berating belgarath but underneath the bluster she loved every last grey wisker on him - and when Poledra appeared and basically put Pol in her place by dispelling certain long held views was just a laugh riot

Don’t get me wrong I hated some things – I was very disappointed by Belgarath the sorcerer book – poor at best and was little more than a prelude to Polgara the sorceress, and do not get me even started on the Dreamers drivel...

But despite the last flawed work I have to say I would always be excited like a schoolgirl when I discovered a new Eddings title on the shelves.

So here I am wondering how others felt – we darn well know the books are little more than re-wries of each other.. that the characters are all the same with different labels, he breaks his own rules when it suits him and you can see the story coming from a million miles away – yet depite this still love reading and re-reading the Belgariad through to the Tumili (even athalus had some redemable qualities)

Does anybody else find this conflict in themselves – the rational intellectual telling you they should be picked apart and the books thrown to a dusty corner but you set aside the rational part of your brain and become 12 again and just love the story and ignore the other stuff???
Harleyquin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th August 2007, 01:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
Talysia
Lady of Autumn
 
Talysia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lincolnshire
Posts: 3,233
Re: Why do you keep reading??

I'm the same. One of the first fantasy series I read was the Belgariad, and after that I read just about everything Eddings, even though they were extremely similar in characters, storyline and other bits and pieces. But I stilll enjoy reading them in spite of that. It's perfect for when you want to read something which you won't be surprised or shocked by, something that isn't too dark or brutal, or something that doesn't take too much brainpower to figure out. Well, that's the way I look at it, anyway.

I know that there are better books out there, but I don't mind that. I keep reading them because they bring back good memories, and because I enjoy the stories, even if they are rehashes of each other.
Talysia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th August 2007, 01:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
white_wanderer
Auditor of Reality
 
white_wanderer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: North East Lincolnshire
Posts: 44
Re: Why do you keep reading??

The stories are easy to read, with a hidden depth to them. With each new read, it reveals a small plot point early on that you didn't notice the first time.
The stories still keep me captivated, although I prefer some to others.
white_wanderer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th September 2007, 11:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
Giovanna Clairval
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: France
Posts: 1,121
Re: Why do you keep reading??

Quote:
[Does anybody else find this conflict in themselves – the rational intellectual telling you they should be picked apart and the books thrown to a dusty corner but you set aside the rational part of your brain and become 12 again and just love the story and ignore the other stuff???
I know what you mean. I really do.

Last month we were packing a lot of stuff, because we were about to move into a new flat (an unfinished, nightmarish business) when my daughter laid her hands on a stack of Eddings’ books.
She’s always looking for good reads, so she asked me: ‘You have so many of these… You must love them. What are the stories about?’
I went: ‘Er… hem… I don’t remember… But it’s nice (!)’.

So I reflected on that and, before reading this thread, I came up with the following.

I really enjoyed the Belgariad (the others… everything has been said here) for three reasons:

1) the beginning, especially the very first sentence of book I. Check it out, if you don’t remember it: it’s perfect. Sorry, my copy is still unpacked, or I would have posted it here.

2) The sharp, cheeky dialogues between Pol and Bel. It was original at the time, and I learned a lot from them.

3) The language (neat, elegant).

It’s more than can be said of many authors. Now, of course, there is the new generation of F and SF writers; our palates are jaded.


Those are the very good reasons why I used to read Eddings. Today, to convince me to buy another of his novels, one of you guys should come up with a very good review. Then, the unabashed me who so much loved reading E. will shut up the intellectual me…
Giovanna Clairval is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th September 2007, 11:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
The Ace
Scottish Roman
 
The Ace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Perth and Kinross
Posts: 2,186
Re: Why do you keep reading??

I still believe Eddings ran his career backwards. I've had a look at the Elenium and Tamuli, but was unimpressed. I've never really progressed beyond the excellent Belgariad and acceptable Malloreon.
The Ace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th September 2007, 11:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
dustinzgirl
A posse ad esse
 
dustinzgirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,970
Re: Why do you keep reading??

Because nobody new has published better?

And, as humans, we flock to the familiar, the categorical, its in our nature.

dustinzgirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th September 2007, 12:04 AM   #7 (permalink)
Ryden
Winter is Coming
 
Ryden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sweden
Posts: 32
Re: Why do you keep reading??

Bah, I don't stick by him. I liked the books when I was 11 something and bought them all, but in time I realized how lame all his books are compared to Wheel of time or A Song of Ice and Fire. So I gave them all away to some kid my mum knows.
Ryden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th September 2007, 05:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
Princess Ivy
Damsel in this dress
 
Princess Ivy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 2,763
Re: Why do you keep reading??

i love eddings first four (ok, two ), and will re-read them like visiting well loved toys from my past. the stories are just as charming as they were when i first read them and i see no reason to strike them from my reading list.

however, i won't re-read the later books, and haven't bothered to finsih elder gods - i already know how it goes.
Princess Ivy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th September 2007, 11:19 PM   #9 (permalink)
Zombie
Registered User
 
Zombie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: California
Posts: 136
Re: Why do you keep reading??

I agree totally with Princess Ivy.

But I must add something .....

Ulath.
Zombie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th September 2007, 04:53 AM   #10 (permalink)
ghost8772
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Colorado
Posts: 151
Re: Why do you keep reading??

yeah zombie, Ulath helped make the Elenium worthwhile, but he couldn't save the Tamuli. I read and reread the Belgariad, Mallorean, and Elenium, as well as belgarath, I like the writing style. But I won't read the Tamuli again. I've also skipped the elder god ones. Ryden, you sound bitter and condescending, try taking up Elric.
ghost8772 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th September 2007, 09:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
Zombie
Registered User
 
Zombie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: California
Posts: 136
Re: Why do you keep reading??

Ghost, I read Tamuli just for Ulath. His best scenes are in that series. Like the leaping into the air thing.
Zombie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th September 2007, 11:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
ghost8772
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Colorado
Posts: 151
Re: Why do you keep reading??

whole point was that no matter how good ulath was, that entire story sucked... don't want to spoil things so not gonna go into detail.
ghost8772 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th September 2007, 11:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
HappyHippo
I'm so dizzy...
 
HappyHippo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 420
Re: Why do you keep reading??

The Tamuli definitely didn't end properly. And Ulath had to have been written by a woman!

I agree with Talysia, Eddings is a lovely, comforting, fluffy-duvet-and-hot-chocolate read. Perfect for days when my intellect and psyche can't handle a stressful book.

And the first paragraph of Castle of Wizardry is the one I especially like.
HappyHippo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st September 2007, 01:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
JagLover
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: UK: ENGLAND:
Posts: 19
Re: Why do you keep reading??

I really liked the Belgariad and the Mallorean and read them numerous times as a teenager.

Later work was of a declining quality, with the same characters with different names. I stopped reading his new books after The Tamuli series since I found it not only repetitive of what had gone before but poorly written.

By all accounts later books have been poorer still, so it was a good place to stop.

At his best whilst his books were rather childish, and contained some of the most ludicrous battle descriptions in all of the fantasy genre, they were very entertaining full of great characters and sparkling dialogue.
JagLover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st September 2007, 04:52 PM   #15 (permalink)
Talysia
Lady of Autumn
 
Talysia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lincolnshire
Posts: 3,233
Re: Why do you keep reading??

Yes, sadly the latest series, The Elder Gods, was definitely not one of his best. I read them only because I'm the sort of person who rarely leaves a series unfinished, and partly because I'm an optimist. As it was, though...

Still, welcome to the Chronicles, JagLover!
Talysia is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ok, best/fav time for reading? Saolta Oiche General Book Discussion 81 3rd May 2008 12:07 PM
Reading out Loud Marky Lazer Aspiring Writers 23 22nd May 2007 06:54 PM
Ridiculed for Reading? kitsune_boy389 SFF lounge 166 5th December 2006 04:47 AM
The Books of August - Summer reading at it's finest littlemissattitude General Book Discussion 48 1st September 2004 05:11 PM
Dirda on Reading knivesout The Lounge 3 5th August 2004 06:45 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0 ©2007, Crawlability, Inc.

About | Link To Us | For Writers | For Publishers | Privacy | Terms of Use | Copyright | Press | XML/RSS | Contact Us

© Copyright Science Fiction Fantasy Chronicles 2003-2008