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The Human Torch · 21st November 2006, 08:44 PM

Has anyone read the "Runelord" series by David Farland? I dont think that it is comparable to ASOIAF but it is entertaining and pretty well written. Its a diffrent type of fantasy "painting" compared to ASOIAF, if you get what I mean

Wiggum · 21st November 2006, 10:48 PM

Rhodry kicks ass.

And I read the first three of the Runelord series, which were decent.

I'd have to go back and reread them to continue on with the series, which is an idea that hasn't appealed to me of late.

Faceless Woman · 22nd November 2006, 08:47 AM

Rhodry does kick ass, though not as much ass as, say, Jill or Arzozah.
I read the first book of the Runelord series, then got bored and started ASOIAF instead. Really glad I did.

TK-421 · 22nd November 2006, 02:28 PM

Took me a while to like Rhodry but he greatly improves as his character develops. Nevyn kicks serious ass. I always liked Otho as well.

Rahl Windsong · 22nd November 2006, 04:05 PM

Recently a friend had recommended I seek out something by Guy Gavriel Kay, so I bought The Fionavar Tapestry. This is a re-print of the original three books, The Summer Tree, The Wandering Fire, and The Darkest Road. I have found this book to be quite a good story and worthy of mention in this thread, I think any fan of the genre would enjoy this story. I love the format I bought the book in, not sure what it is called but it is the large soft cover edition. I really like that type of book because it stays open when set upon a desk,much more relaxing to read like that not having to hold the book...

Before that I was reading Gene Wolfe's The Wizard, the second book in that series the first titled, The Knight. If you love to read fantasy you owe it to yourself to read something by Gene Wolfe,and that is all I will say for now

Rahl

Werthead · 23rd November 2006, 01:20 AM

I disliked The Fionavar Tapestry. It didn't really gel for me. Oddly exactly the same thing happened with his only other multi-volume work, The Sarantine Mosaic.

However, Guy Gavriel Kay's stand-alone novels are among the finest, most emotionally effecting fantasy books I have ever read: Tigana, A Song for Arbonne, The Lions of Al-Rassan (soon to be a major motion picture) and The Last Light of the Sun are simply brilliant novels that show that the single-volume fantasy book is a long way from being dead. His new book, Ysabel, has attracted fantastic reviews ranking it as one of his best books.

Lovely_Elm · 26th November 2006, 07:57 PM

I am just 4 chapters into A GAme of Thrones - eneryone speaks so highly of the series that I had to jump on the bandwagon!

Guy Gavriel Kay really converted to the fantasy genre. Just like Hobb's works, they aren't high fantasy, more historical fantasy (Kay loosley bases all his morked on a set period of time - like the re-conquest of Spain in the Lions). Tigana was the first I read and Loved.

I'm now hoping that GRRM's works live up to that!

Somebloke · 26th November 2006, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovely_Elm

I am just 4 chapters into A GAme of Thrones - eneryone speaks so highly of the series that I had to jump on the bandwagon!

Guy Gavriel Kay really converted to the fantasy genre. Just like Hobb's works, they aren't high fantasy, more historical fantasy (Kay loosley bases all his morked on a set period of time - like the re-conquest of Spain in the Lions). Tigana was the first I read and Loved.

I'm now hoping that GRRM's works live up to that!

GRRM's are less 'nice' than Hobbs. This is in itself actually a good thing. I for one have trouble buying all of those sensitive, gentle-minded teenage boys that seem to populate her worlds.

Oh, and stay away from the forums until you finish A Feast For Crows. It's for your own good. You have been warned.

MemmoN · 31st December 2006, 05:24 PM

George's friend J.V Jones has a beautiful story called cavern of black ice and tower of grey ice. Written with the same spirit.

Funky Cthulu · 1st January 2007, 02:23 AM

I am 2/3rds of the way thru Tad William's 'Memory, Sorrow and Thorn' series. Really excellent, I totally underestimated them after reading his sci fi 'Otherworld' series. They're very different to GRRM's style, but I think they complement each other.

dsmith · 1st January 2007, 06:14 PM

I haven't read any of George R R Martin's books. What would you recommend as a good one to try first?

j. d. worthington · 1st January 2007, 07:09 PM

Probably the best among Martin would be his Song of Ice and Fire, or his early novel Fevre Dream (1982). For the series SoIaF:

1. A Game of Thrones (1996)
2. A Clash of Kings (1998)
3. A Storm of Swords (2000)
4. A Feast for Crows (2005)
5. A Dance with Dragons (forthcoming)

dsmith · 1st January 2007, 07:55 PM

Thanks j.d. ! I just ordered a used copy of Fevre Dream because it sounded good, so I'll start with that one, then try A Game of Thrones.

Winters_Sorrow · 1st January 2007, 08:06 PM

I just finished that one myself dsmith. I'm sure you'll like it as you seem to enjoy a dash of horror in your fantasy novels

21st November 2006, 08:44 PM	#16 (permalink)
The Human Torch Indiffrent to Suffering Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5	Re: Is GRRM the epitome of Fantasy?? Has anyone read the "Runelord" series by David Farland? I dont think that it is comparable to ASOIAF but it is entertaining and pretty well written. Its a diffrent type of fantasy "painting" compared to ASOIAF, if you get what I mean

21st November 2006, 10:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
Wiggum Big Pimping Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 453	Re: Is GRRM the epitome of Fantasy?? Rhodry kicks ass. And I read the first three of the Runelord series, which were decent. I'd have to go back and reread them to continue on with the series, which is an idea that hasn't appealed to me of late.

22nd November 2006, 08:47 AM	#18 (permalink)
Faceless Woman Pet Nymeria. Now die. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 398	Re: Is GRRM the epitome of Fantasy?? Rhodry does kick ass, though not as much ass as, say, Jill or Arzozah. I read the first book of the Runelord series, then got bored and started ASOIAF instead. Really glad I did.

22nd November 2006, 02:28 PM	#19 (permalink)
TK-421 I Do Not Sow Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,671	Re: Is GRRM the epitome of Fantasy?? Took me a while to like Rhodry but he greatly improves as his character develops. Nevyn kicks serious ass. I always liked Otho as well.

22nd November 2006, 04:05 PM	#20 (permalink)
Rahl Windsong Last of the Windsong Clan Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 518	Re: Is GRRM the epitome of Fantasy?? Recently a friend had recommended I seek out something by Guy Gavriel Kay, so I bought The Fionavar Tapestry. This is a re-print of the original three books, The Summer Tree, The Wandering Fire, and The Darkest Road. I have found this book to be quite a good story and worthy of mention in this thread, I think any fan of the genre would enjoy this story. I love the format I bought the book in, not sure what it is called but it is the large soft cover edition. I really like that type of book because it stays open when set upon a desk,much more relaxing to read like that not having to hold the book... Before that I was reading Gene Wolfe's The Wizard, the second book in that series the first titled, The Knight. If you love to read fantasy you owe it to yourself to read something by Gene Wolfe,and that is all I will say for now Rahl

23rd November 2006, 01:20 AM	#21 (permalink)
Werthead Lemming of Discord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 961	Re: Is GRRM the epitome of Fantasy?? I disliked The Fionavar Tapestry. It didn't really gel for me. Oddly exactly the same thing happened with his only other multi-volume work, The Sarantine Mosaic. However, Guy Gavriel Kay's stand-alone novels are among the finest, most emotionally effecting fantasy books I have ever read: Tigana, A Song for Arbonne, The Lions of Al-Rassan (soon to be a major motion picture) and The Last Light of the Sun are simply brilliant novels that show that the single-volume fantasy book is a long way from being dead. His new book, Ysabel, has attracted fantastic reviews ranking it as one of his best books.

26th November 2006, 07:57 PM	#22 (permalink)
Lovely_Elm Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK: ENGLAND: Posts: 7	Re: Is GRRM the epitome of Fantasy?? I am just 4 chapters into A GAme of Thrones - eneryone speaks so highly of the series that I had to jump on the bandwagon! Guy Gavriel Kay really converted to the fantasy genre. Just like Hobb's works, they aren't high fantasy, more historical fantasy (Kay loosley bases all his morked on a set period of time - like the re-conquest of Spain in the Lions). Tigana was the first I read and Loved. I'm now hoping that GRRM's works live up to that!

31st December 2006, 05:24 PM	#24 (permalink)
MemmoN mercenary Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 47	Re: Is GRRM the epitome of Fantasy?? George's friend J.V Jones has a beautiful story called cavern of black ice and tower of grey ice. Written with the same spirit.

1st January 2007, 02:23 AM	#25 (permalink)
Funky Cthulu Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 185	Re: Is GRRM the epitome of Fantasy?? I am 2/3rds of the way thru Tad William's 'Memory, Sorrow and Thorn' series. Really excellent, I totally underestimated them after reading his sci fi 'Otherworld' series. They're very different to GRRM's style, but I think they complement each other.

1st January 2007, 06:14 PM	#26 (permalink)
dsmith Librarians rule! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 124	Re: Is GRRM the epitome of Fantasy?? I haven't read any of George R R Martin's books. What would you recommend as a good one to try first?

1st January 2007, 07:09 PM	#27 (permalink)
j. d. worthington Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 8,553	Re: Is GRRM the epitome of Fantasy?? Probably the best among Martin would be his Song of Ice and Fire, or his early novel Fevre Dream (1982). For the series SoIaF: 1. A Game of Thrones (1996) 2. A Clash of Kings (1998) 3. A Storm of Swords (2000) 4. A Feast for Crows (2005) 5. A Dance with Dragons (forthcoming)

1st January 2007, 07:55 PM	#28 (permalink)
dsmith Librarians rule! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 124	Re: Is GRRM the epitome of Fantasy?? Thanks j.d. ! I just ordered a used copy of Fevre Dream because it sounded good, so I'll start with that one, then try A Game of Thrones.

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Winters_Sorrow Unreg. Mutant Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tyne and Wear Posts: 2,689	Re: Is GRRM the epitome of Fantasy?? I just finished that one myself dsmith. I'm sure you'll like it as you seem to enjoy a dash of horror in your fantasy novels

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