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Old 17th August 2007, 12:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Premature Publication or Poor Proof Reading?

I've just started re-reading HP and the Deathly Hallows, and come across a monster of a sentence! (my bold type)

"Though it was often predicted in later years that he was on the point of taking the job, however, he never had Ministerial ambitions"

I can't believe I didn't notice it on a first reading, it's so barbarously bad. I suppose I was in such a hurry to find out how the series would end that I skimmed instead of reading properly.

I wonder if this was missed because there was so much pressure to get the thing published that short cuts were made and certain tasks not properly performed.

Anybody else got any glaring errors to point out in recently read books?
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Old 17th August 2007, 01:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Premature Publication or Poor Proof Reading?

I've just started reading the ASOIAF books by George RR Martin. They're absolutely fantastically written, but one sentence leapt out of the first book as being very out of character for the text. It went something like this:

'Ser Alliser walked away as if he had a dagger up his butt.'

This just aint in keeping with the tone of the rest of the book. Backside, maybe (at a stretch), but butt?!?
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Old 17th August 2007, 01:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Premature Publication or Poor Proof Reading?

One mistake that stood out like a huge, glaring beacon was in The Dark Tower, volume seven. There's a character in it that has had both legs amputated just below the knees...but at one point during the novel, she is described as "leaping to her feet".

I know that's quite a generic sentence that is often used...but in this case, it's such a huge mistake!

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Old 17th August 2007, 01:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Premature Publication or Poor Proof Reading?

Er, I was actually talking about glaring grammatical errors!
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Old 17th August 2007, 02:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Premature Publication or Poor Proof Reading?

Yes there are often spelling - and even more often grammatical - errors in published books. There are only so many times you can proofread them, and even then mistakes can be made at the printing stage. Usually the errors become more obvious towards the end of a book, as the proofreaders get tired. Sometimes if I know I'm going to re-read one of my books I'll mark down the mistakes in pencil so I don't get annoyed by them the second time around. But, what more can we do... delay the deadlines even longer?
Human error is a fact of life, I suppose the pedants among us will have learned to live with it.
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Old 17th August 2007, 02:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Premature Publication or Poor Proof Reading?

Oh come on, Joel. We all know Chris got your sniper rifle when you changed avatar.
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Old 18th August 2007, 11:04 AM   #7 (permalink)
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He just added it to his collection, I already had two of that model anyway.
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Old 19th August 2007, 12:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Premature Publication or Poor Proof Reading?

Me, no english speaking good.

English, not me language

Me ask how better write this

"Though it was often predicted in later years that he was on the point of taking the job, however, he never had Ministerial ambitions"

Me like to learn writing good.
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Old 19th August 2007, 02:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Premature Publication or Poor Proof Reading?

'Though' and 'however' cancel each other out a bit.

Either:
"Though it was often predicted in later years that he was on the point of taking the job, he never had Ministerial ambitions"
Or:
"It was often predicted in later years that he was on the point of taking the job, however, he never had ministerial ambitions"

Although I must say that the latter, while grammatically correct, sounds clumsy. I much prefer the first alternative.
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Old 19th August 2007, 11:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Premature Publication or Poor Proof Reading?

I admit that I must snicker at the Harry Potter case of bad proofreading in the hardcover version as much as the next reader, but I was under the impression that hardcover editions have a long history of having the occasional grammar or spelling error---all of which are normally worked out by the time the paperbacks are shelved.

But, then again, Rowling does believe she is God's gift to all of us average, simple-minded readers so I find the egg on her face sunny-side-up.
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Old 20th August 2007, 12:37 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Er, I was actually talking about glaring grammatical errors!
Well, I don't know about glaring, but on my first read through of HP7 I did notice something on page 345 of the UK edition (easy to remember!):

'I don't think so,' said Ron. 'It's a damn' sight harder making stuff up when you're under stress than you'd think...'

That extra apostrophe threw me - and it still does. Then again, I'm fussy.
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Old 20th August 2007, 06:17 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Yeah, it's archaic. I have seen it before, however, as it's actually an abbreviation of "damned sight."
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Re: Premature Publication or Poor Proof Reading?

I just read Hag's Nook by John Dixon Carr and the book was peppered with the most ridiculous errors. Genders were switched so his became hers.

Singular becomes plural and words were broken where they ought not to be, for example, andt he.

It was a very frustrating read, especially the mistakes with gender and the oddly broken words. And yes, that was a hardback too.
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Old 20th August 2007, 06:10 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Premature Publication or Poor Proof Reading?

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Yeah, it's archaic. I have seen it before, however, as it's actually an abbreviation of "damned sight."
It's not really that archaic, as it is still used fairly frequently (though always in dialogue with published writing ... in a letter, of course, it would be monologue....). As it's an elision of a final syllable, it's still quite acceptable....
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Re: Premature Publication or Poor Proof Reading?

I've never seen that before! Ooh, see, I'm learning new stuff all the time.
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