Lost: Season Four

[Teresa Edgerton]

What does everyone think of doubling up the flashbacks and the flash forwards? If this was a one-time thing, OK, it was interesting once, even if I did feel like a bit of a cheat. If they plan to make a habit of it, that will probably prove to be one too many levels of confusion for me.


As for the ending of the episode (spoiler, highlight to read):

Do we think that Jin is really dead? The date on the tombstone/memorial was the date of the plane crash.

I must say, I will be most unhappy if he is. I really want a satisfying ending for him and Sun and the baby.

[Steve Jordan]

Originally Posted by Teresa Edgerton

What does everyone think of doubling up the flashbacks and the flash forwards? If this was a one-time thing, OK, it was interesting once, even if I did feel like a bit of a cheat. If they plan to make a habit of it, that will probably prove to be one too many levels of confusion for me.

No doubt, the flashback/flash-forward was confusing... it was supposed to be. Once I realized why, I was okay with it.

Regarding the spoiler: Yeah, I hope it isn't so.

Michael's ep was pretty interesting: For someone who's pretty much suicidal, he's still got a lot of fight in him. But the suggestion that he somehow can't die, thanks to his exposure to the island... it's too weird. People who go there get healed, though they can still be killed, but are protected when they leave, except for pregnant mothers who die when they are there... ugh. And if that was the case... how did one of them end up in that coffin? Mondo confusing.

And I notice that Michael agreed to work for Ben, and still hasn't been told exactly what's going on. How long will this go on?!? Somebody tell somebody something!

[Aniri]

Originally Posted by Steve Jordan

No doubt, the flashback/flash-forward was confusing... it was supposed to be. Once I realized why, I was okay with it.

Regarding the spoiler: Yeah, I hope it isn't so.

Michael's ep was pretty interesting: For someone who's pretty much suicidal, he's still got a lot of fight in him. But the suggestion that he somehow can't die, thanks to his exposure to the island... it's too weird. People who go there get healed, though they can still be killed, but are protected when they leave, except for pregnant mothers who die when they are there... ugh. And if that was the case... how did one of them end up in that coffin? Mondo confusing.

And I notice that Michael agreed to work for Ben, and still hasn't been told exactly what's going on. How long will this go on?!? Somebody tell somebody something!

That's how I feel every week!

[TK-421]

Something I totally missed is that the man we saw sitting in Jacob's chair in the cabin (when Hurley peaked through the window) was Christian Shepherd. Jack's father. Now the Producers have said he is "dead" but that "dead may have a meaning that we do not fully understand yet". Think that Jack's father is the most featured character in flashbacks and touches other passengers (Sawyer, Claire). Also, when Jack found his father's coffin on the island, it was empty. The Producers have also said that Christian Shepherd will be back in future episodes.
That also means that the person who appeared in the window (we only saw his eye) and scarred Hurley was Jacob?

[Aniri]

Wait...which episode was this you are speaking of??? I must have missed Christian Shepherd in the cabin as well. Huh. Yeah...I think he's totally "alive".
I still can't stand Michael. Why the heck would you tell your child that you killed 2 people??

[TK-421]

Aniri: This was the second episode of the season. Oh, and Michael did it out of guilt, just like Tom said.

[Teresa Edgerton]

Originally Posted by Steve Jordan

But the suggestion that he somehow can't die, thanks to his exposure to the island... it's too weird. People who go there get healed, though they can still be killed, but are protected when they leave, except for pregnant mothers who die when they are there...

I don't think that's what Tom meant. I think he was saying that the island won't allow you to kill yourself. It's like the island has its own plans for you, and you can't screw them up. Tom might have believed that (if so, he was wrong, because we know that one character did kill himself) or he might have been lying. Michael's suicide attempt with the car had already failed, and perhaps there was some tampering with the gun while Tom had it.

But, yes, it certainly was a confusing thing for him to say.

[Steve Jordan]

Originally Posted by Teresa Edgerton

But, yes, it certainly was a confusing thing for him to say.

And that was probably the whole point... to confuse Michael enough to convince him to work for Ben. Of all the Others besides Ben, Tom seemed to be the most adept at the mind-games that Ben excelled at. I could easily believe he tampered with Michael's gun. Heck, for this show, I could believe Tom was in the back room of the pawn shop when Michael arrived, and made sure he was sold blanks!

[TK-421]

New episodes coming starting on April 24th.

[Raalix]

With regard to the Christian Sheppard thing - there was a mini episode/podcast type thing which was set prior to the pilot episode. It shows Christian on the island in his suit talking to Vincent. The plane has obviously just crashed and Christian tells Vincent to go and find Jack.

The dead thing is rather curious. Mikhail has died more than once and keeps coming back. Desmond kept having constant visions involving Charlie's death. Locke's father supposedly died and then arrived on the island only to be killed again by Sawyer - have we seen the last of him?

[Teresa Edgerton]

It's so hard to keep track of everything, when there is so much to remember and they keep interrupting the flow of things with preemptions and reruns, but I don't remember when Locke's father was supposed to have died before.

How dead Christian Shepherd is supposed to be, after being seen on the island and Jack's remark during his flash-forward, continues to puzzle me.

Sometimes the show makes me think of that line in The Princess Bride about the difference between All Dead and Mostly Dead.

At other times I hear a munchkin chorus singing in my head, and wonder how many of the characters are "not only merely dead, but really, most sincerely dead."

[Raalix]

We never saw Lock'es father die the first time. When he and Locke were reunited on the island, he talked about some catastrophic road accident in which he died and then found himself on the island.

[TK-421]

Well, after last weeks outstanding episode, they are building this week's as the most dramatic this season. Go to ABC.com and check out the video preview on the Lost page. (you have to wait until after the short commercial...I hate those). Anyways, "the island will claim another survivor".

[Steve Jordan]

Well, last night's episode gave us lots of drama, and some nice (finally) answered questions, but no "claiming another survivor," really.

The more we see, the more we get from the flash-forwards to build a timeline of how the Oceanic 6 dealt with getting back, and what they had to give up to get back in the first place. They seemed to adjust to their resumed life at first, but as time went by, their demons came back to eat away at them. We still don't know why no one else came back, or even if any of them are still alive back there. And unless Aaron counts as one of the Oceanic 6, we still don't know who the sixth was, and if the sixth was in that coffin.

[Wiggum]

Kate can suck the life out of any episode. The beginning was alright, but I don't know why they keep emasculating, in turns, Locke and Jack. The ending redeemed the episode a bit.

Now, my question is, if you remember back to waaaaaay early in the first season, when Claire was going to give her baby up for adoption the psychic she went to told her in no uncertain terms that she ABSOLUTELY MUST be the one to raise her child.

Do you think that's going to be addressed in some way, or just dismissed as a way to get her on the plane?