HBO and Martin

[the smiling weirwood]

Holy ******* ****. I just read parts of that blog you linked to.

I didn't realize people could be so incredibly hateful about anyone, much less someone whose books they read obsessively enough to write a blog about it. Seriously, why don't they just stop reading it if they hate it that much?

[Charming Serpent]

Because people or humanity in general are selfish, hypocritical, asshats. They forget that this guy made a masterpiece and a world where they actually enjoy visiting and start to think that GRRM owes them something. That they are right in their demands etc etc ...

I would go on with my rant, but I've been sick and tired all day so perhaps one of my betters here in the forum could take over....

[Culhwch]

Does the man have to dress himself in the morning? Surely he can write naked? Five more minutes a day! And while we are at it, why does he eat and sleep and bathe. There's time for that after you publish the book YOU OWE ME!!!

Jerks.

[Steady_01]

Re: Finsh the Book, George

No, but I've been looking for something like that! Thanks. I thought I was pretty much alone in not fawning over the sweaty folds of GRRM.

[the smiling weirwood]

I'm just curious, why do you bother reading anything by him anymore? Why not just save yourself the heart attack and go read something else? It seems like a lot of wasted effort to me.

[soulsinging]

Originally Posted by the smiling weirwood

I'm just curious, why do you bother reading anything by him anymore? Why not just save yourself the heart attack and go read something else? It seems like a lot of wasted effort to me.

for the same reason i couldn't tear myself away from the train wreck that was smallville on tv. even though over half the episodes were incredibly lame (just as some martin chapters/viewpoints are), i had to keep watching because i did enjoy some of the characters and wanted to know how the various plotlines would resolve themselves.

[the smiling weirwood]

Ah. Well just to inform, these forums are for discussion and appreciation of books. We welcome genuine and intelligent criticism as it leads to a greater understanding of the flaws and merits of any given work, but baseless whining, complaining, and flaming are not appreciated nor tolerated. Just so you know. If anything like the hate-filled drivel from that blog appears here, I will notify the moderators at once, who will be more than happy to remove it and possibly ban you. That kind of thing goes counter to the spirit of this forum.

[soulsinging]

Originally Posted by the smiling weirwood

Ah. Well just to inform, these forums are for discussion and appreciation of books. We welcome genuine and intelligent criticism as it leads to a greater understanding of the flaws and merits of any given work, but baseless whining, complaining, and flaming are not appreciated nor tolerated. Just so you know. If anything like the hate-filled drivel from that blog appears here, I will notify the moderators at once, who will be more than happy to remove it and possibly ban you. That kind of thing goes counter to the spirit of this forum.

easy man, just saying it's perfectly possible and reasonable to enjoy a particular book or series but still have a great amount of frustration with it. i've been battling it since i first picked up game of thrones... parts of it are incredible, but parts of it are also very frustrating and remind me of i stopped reading the WoT... because there was no end in sight.

granted, the blog is on the strong side. but i also feel it is rather tongue in cheek and more than anything is intended as a distraction during the wait. you might be taking it a little too personally/seriously. steady's post was pretty funny i thought.

[Boaz]

soulsinging,

First, let me say that I am not a moderator. I am a an average poster here. I'd just like to clarify things a bit.

I think weirwood (in posts #35 & #37) was referring to Steady 01 comments regarding Martin's hygiene and health. Discussing the timetables of the release of ADWD and the development of ASOIAF on HBO are the topics of this thread. I don't think that weirwood was referring to your post on page one of this thread.

Discussing Martin's style, plots, subject matter, and how he deals with various social, religious, and political issues (of which I believe I am on the opposite side of the fence from Martin) are also fine for discussion. But taking the level of discussion of HBO and Martin down to "I thought I was pretty much alone in not fawning over the sweaty folds of GRRM." is neither to the point, logical, nor polite.

Steady 01's first post about an imaginary discussion between Martin and HBO was to the point. It displayed imagination while showing his frustrations.

I also think that Steady 01 (in post #34) misunderstood Culhwch (in post #33). I believe Culhwch's sarcasm was not towards GRRM, but rather towards those he deems irrational in their impatience for ADWD.

As for the linked blog on the previous page... It's their site... They can do whatever they want as long as they are not abusing their EULA nor breaking federal or state laws. I found it ironic (they know waaaaaay too much about ASOIAF to act the way they do), immature (name calling), and vindictive (wishing ill towards Martin). Whatever valid points they may have regarding ADWD are lost in their inane, hateful rantings. If they deem to call it "shtick", well they can, but I don't believe it. If they'd lose the bitterness and blog rationally, then I'd be of a mind to hear them out.

On an aside, I've not seen Smallville. But I do have certain, ahem, several guilty pleasures... Lost, UFC, and Island of the Sequined Love Nun...

Happy posting.

[the smiling weirwood]

Island of the Sequined Love Nun? How did I miss that?!?

[The Imp]

Originally Posted by Charming Serpent

Because people or humanity in general are selfish, hypocritical, asshats. They forget that this guy made a masterpiece and a world where they actually enjoy visiting and start to think that GRRM owes them something. That they are right in their demands etc etc ...

I would go on with my rant, but I've been sick and tired all day so perhaps one of my betters here in the forum could take over....

The asshats that write that blog don't represent humanity as a whole or fans of ASoIaF in particular. They are hatefilled bastards who need to stfu and read another series if they think what GRRM is writing is so bad. It's clear to me that their main motive for the blog is to get hits by being controversial and appealing to the baser instincts of a minority of GRRM's fans. I feel the need to shower and maybe run an unscheduled virus scan ofter reading that poison filled drivel. I may be upset with GRRM for not finishing the book by now, and I DO think he owes his readers 100% effort (i obviously don't know if he has been giving us that), but it would also be fair for someone to tell ME to stfu if I started ranting about this in every post,

[Werthead]

Originally Posted by the smiling weirwood

Are cable channels like HBO more difficult to get in other countries?

They are impossible to get in other countries (apart from Canada, which has apparently just started showing HBO as an option on some packages). Other countries' networks or cable stations have to buy them and show them themselves. With AGoT it's less of a problem because the BBC are co-funding it, so BBC-1 will show it in the UK within a few weeks of the USA airing.

[murphy]

Originally Posted by Werthead

They are impossible to get in other countries (apart from Canada, which has apparently just started showing HBO as an option on some packages). Other countries' networks or cable stations have to buy them and show them themselves. With AGoT it's less of a problem because the BBC are co-funding it, so BBC-1 will show it in the UK within a few weeks of the USA airing.

And hopefully, it will come out soon on DVD so we can at least rent it. HBO DVDs seem to be higher in price that other TV shows.

[Boaz]

tsw, it's a funny book. When I read how the protagonist crashes his plane in the opening chapter, I was in tears... Of course, I pulled that book off my sister's bookshelf when I was house sitting... I'd never buy it for myself.

Wert, it's nice to see you here on the weekends now. I'm glad they don't work you seven days a week. And how is it that you know sooooo much about the TV industry?

[TK-421]

I have not bothered with the Finished the Book, George hate-on but my fairly undiplomatic response to these people after drinking a bottle of wine tonight is: F%$k Off!