Illegal Aliens and Crime

[dustinzgirl]

This is an example of why I hate our media. They report only one side of the problem, and not the whole.

WorldNetDaily: Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily

"Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001."


What they fail to report is the following from the FBI statistics:

"Though no federal statistics are kept on murders or any other crimes committed by illegal aliens, a number of groups have produced estimates based on data collected from prisons, news reports and independent research."

OK so, all estimates. Now, I'd like to know why nobody knows how many murders a day are done by white people, black people, and so forth. Hell, I'm sure there are a few Koreans murdering people to.

THIS IS RACIST PROFILING PROPOGANDA BULL****.

In 2005, about 17,000 people were murdered nation wide.

If illegal aliens murdered 12 people per day thats about 4200 murders

So what about the other about 12,800 murders? That means that 36 murders per day are NOT committed by illegal aliens.

Oh, wait, those must be the legal mexican immigrants, right?

Once we commit to the course of action that illegal aliens, which are mostly hispanic, are the largest purpetrators of crime (which they are NOT btw, its the white males murdering that have the largest chunk), then we commit to allowing our police and our government to racially profile crimes and then we create a system where it becomes easier to lay the blame for a crime on a person based on race or legalization without committing to finding the truth without a predetermined judgement about race or legalization.

Back in the 50's and 60's, police would automatically arrest black people, japanese, russians, germans, and even bikers and hold them without cause simply becuase they fit a profile that wasn't well liked. The Miranda rights took care of a lot of that, but its still a system of profiling.

"In every state, the proportion of blacks in prison exceeds, sometimes by a considerable amount, their proportion in the general population (Figure 2). In Minnesota and Iowa, blacks constitute a share of the prison population that is twelve times greater than their share of the state population. In eleven states -- Kansas, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming --the percentage of the prison population that is black is more than six times greater than the percentage of the state population that is black."

United States - Punishment and Prejudice: Racial Disparities in the War on Drugs

There is a problem. It has nothing to do with legalization, it has to do with our current system of crime and punishment.

Unless you really believe that more black people than the percentage of black people in the population are committing crimes, right?

So apply that same logic to illegal aliens.

It's profiling, plain and simple.

[Allegra]

Excellent argument, dusty!

[The Ace]

The one that got me was the Washington Sniper. The profilers got everything right about their man except for one small detail;

They were certain he was white.

The black sniper was waved through three roadblocks, allowing him to kill twice more before he was caught almost by accident.

Sorry but a murderer is a murderer whatever colour he is and while deliberate racism is obscene, so is the PC alternative.

People commit crimes, not statistics.

[Allegra]

The problem is the media has a bad habit of playing with statistics and summing up devious reports.

[HardScienceFan]

Ace is right.
The truth is what needs to be reported.
Our media are sick to the core.
Journalistic integrity:gone almost
Impartialityut of the window
The search for the scoop is on

[dustinzgirl]

Originally Posted by The Ace

The one that got me was the Washington Sniper. The profilers got everything right about their man except for one small detail;

They were certain he was white.

The black sniper was waved through three roadblocks, allowing him to kill twice more before he was caught almost by accident.

Sorry but a murderer is a murderer whatever colour he is and while deliberate racism is obscene, so is the PC alternative.

People commit crimes, not statistics.

Please don't take this too seriously, but all I could think is that ourlaw enforcemtn is used to white snipers (taking aim with a high powered rifle) and black sprayers (just random bullets with a machine gun) Personally, I have rarely seen black snipers depicted in any movie, but I have seen a lot of black M-16 users. I have seen few white street gangs (and yes, they exist, in droves) shown in the movies, and when they are its with rifles, not machine guns. That really doesn't have much to do with the subject matter, but just kind of proves that when we profile a certain cultural heritage as being more likely to do this or to do that, then we ignore that all cultures are equally capable and likely to do such a thing. It just irritates me to no end.

[dustinzgirl]

PS: sorry for the double post but my edit time passed.

I did a little bit of quick math (not perfect, I scribbled it on paper, I would have used my computer calculator but I hate typing in all the stupid zeros and its faster and easier to write it out lol).

The American population is U.S. 302,444,550--so about 300 million legal americans, rounding up.

7 million of those are illegal immigrants as of 2000, but considering that its growing at about 50,000 per year, add 35,000 to that, so about 7.5 million, rounding up.

So, basically, 12 murders a day is 4200. 36 murders a day not commited by illegal aliens is about 12,500.

Basic 8th grade math, divide the number of murders by the population reaches the percentage of the population commiting murders.

the percentage of illegal immigrants commiting murders annually is 0.00056 (4200/7,500,000)

the percentage of legal Americans commiting murders annually is 4.1. 12,500/300,000,000)

Even if I subtract out the 7.5 million illegals from the 300 million americans, I still get about 4%. Go figure.

[sarcasm]But, we should DEFINETLY focus on illegal aliens as the largest population proporation to commit murders. That will totally take a bite out of crime.[/sarcasm]

I think i nessed up ion the math somewhere lol..........