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Old 25th July 2007, 03:27 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows...*DEFINITE SPOILERS*

Harry was using malfoy's wand

Malfoy was using dumbledore's wand (elder wand) instead of his own (he did not know it was elder wand)
i am a bit confused why malfoy did not use his own wand
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Old 25th July 2007, 04:06 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows...*DEFINITE SPOILERS*

malfoy was NOT using dumbledores wand

he had thrown it out of dumbledores hand in books six -i think and it was then that the wand chose the wizard

but he stupidly did'nt take it cause he did'nt know
so at the end harry says
"i stole malfoys wand. lets see if the elder wand-" -which was not in malfoys possession
"somehow knows its owner ws disarmed-"
-malfoy had been disarmed -even if malfoy is disarmed from any wand its as if he lost the elder wand wherever it is
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Old 25th July 2007, 07:40 PM   #93 (permalink)
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I found the whole book fantastic but really sad. It made me cry when Fred died, J.K.Rowling made the whole description so realistic.
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Old 27th July 2007, 05:46 AM   #94 (permalink)
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows...*DEFINITE SPOILERS*

The bit I found gut-wrenching was the whole "I know I've got to die" bit. That showed Harry had courage and it showed his true Gryffindor nature.

Well, I'm happy with my guesses at what I though would happen in this book. I was fairly accurate on a few of the points. (Don't know how you link to a post, so I'll just copy the URL instead).

http://www.chronicles-network.com/fo...tml#post825697
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Old 27th July 2007, 09:44 AM   #95 (permalink)
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows...*DEFINITE SPOILERS*

Harry as a Horcrux I didn't like, but at least she backed it up with Voldie taking his blood which made it a bit more acceptable. And I always knew that Dumbley was smart enough to factor his own death into a plan! After all, what better way to get Snape close to Voldie
I was disappointed with Snape's death though, I always thought of him as someone would could hold his own against Voldie in a duel.
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Old 27th July 2007, 02:54 PM   #96 (permalink)
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows...*DEFINITE SPOILERS*

Well, no one could really hold their own against Voldemort in a duel apart from Dumbledore - Voldie was holding his own against 3 powerful people at the end there, whereas Snape was forced to flee when faced with the same thing. On top of that, Voldie could stand toe to toe with Dumbledore... I got the distinct impression that not many people could do that.

But keep in mind a couple of things:

Snape knew he had to tell Harry about him being a Horcrux. He could possibly have known Harry was there through Legilimenency - but even if he didn't, had he resisted the snake, Voldemort would have AKed him, and there would be no way to tell Harry anything. The moment he walked into that room, he knew what was happening... he kept looking at the snake, asking to go and get the boy.
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Old 27th July 2007, 03:20 PM   #97 (permalink)
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows...*DEFINITE SPOILERS*

Harry was NOT a Horcrux... It was his SCAR!
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Old 27th July 2007, 03:56 PM   #98 (permalink)
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Well, obviously. Apologies - I just phrased it wrong in my reply.
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Old 27th July 2007, 06:49 PM   #99 (permalink)
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows...*DEFINITE SPOILERS*

MJRevell... it wasn't just you. And there is no reason to apologize. But when you guys start talking about the Horcrux being Harry and about his death... one must realize that the Harry had to die in order to shake the Horcrux free or off of him(btw, this could only have happen AFTER he turned 17). Dumbledore gave Harry the choice to return or just die...

Now... Snape's death was a little disappointing, not because he was battling Voldie, because he didn't. It was the snake that killed him. From my understanding of the situation the snake was protected. I don't think anyone could have pentrated that shield... except the sword! (Yeah Neville!)

I did feel the way Voldie died was perfect! Harry didn't have to be strong to defeat Voldie. He just had to have an understanding of how magic worked... Voldemort obviously didn't. It was that understanding of Harry's sacrafice, his DEATH, which protected and rebounded the death shot back to Voldemort.

I do have one question, if all the horcruxes were destroyed didn't that mean that Voldemort's soul was also destroyed, then why didn't Voldemort die when the last one was destroyed?
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Old 27th July 2007, 07:51 PM   #100 (permalink)
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A horcrux splits your soul, it doesn't become your soul. Voldemort was the last piece.
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Old 27th July 2007, 07:51 PM   #101 (permalink)
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I do have one question, if all the horcruxes were destroyed didn't that mean that Voldemort's soul was also destroyed, then why didn't Voldemort die when the last one was destroyed?
He still retained a piece of his soul within him (hence him still being able to have a shadow of his former self and attach it to other bodies once his Avada Kedavra backfired from Harry the first time), he just siphoned off some of it into the horcruxes.

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Old 27th July 2007, 07:57 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Yeah with the whole backfiring death thingy. It hit Voldie and rebounded taking a piece of him into Harry... So Voldie was left with 1/7 or 1/8 of a soul. Shouldn't a backfiring killing curse... kill him? Even the best soldier dies with 1 lucky shot.
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Old 27th July 2007, 08:19 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Yeah with the whole backfiring death thingy. It hit Voldie and rebounded taking a piece of him into Harry... So Voldie was left with 1/7 or 1/8 of a soul. Shouldn't a backfiring killing curse... kill him? Even the best soldier dies with 1 lucky shot.
He had already made all of his horcruxes by the time he tried to murder Harry so he could never truly die until they were all destroyed.

(Sorry if that's a pointless point, I couldn't figure out if you were saying that Voldie should have died or if Harry should have died. )

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Old 27th July 2007, 08:37 PM   #104 (permalink)
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MJRevell... it wasn't just you. And there is no reason to apologize. But when you guys start talking about the Horcrux being Harry and about his death... one must realize that the Harry had to die in order to shake the Horcrux free or off of him(btw, this could only have happen AFTER he turned 17). Dumbledore gave Harry the choice to return or just die...

Now... Snape's death was a little disappointing, not because he was battling Voldie, because he didn't. It was the snake that killed him. From my understanding of the situation the snake was protected. I don't think anyone could have pentrated that shield... except the sword! (Yeah Neville!)

I did feel the way Voldie died was perfect! Harry didn't have to be strong to defeat Voldie. He just had to have an understanding of how magic worked... Voldemort obviously didn't. It was that understanding of Harry's sacrafice, his DEATH, which protected and rebounded the death shot back to Voldemort.

I do have one question, if all the horcruxes were destroyed didn't that mean that Voldemort's soul was also destroyed, then why didn't Voldemort die when the last one was destroyed?

I agree, it was awesome the way Voldemort met his end

And of course Harry had to die in order for the soul part to leave him. But your reply to my post above got me thinking.. i'm tempted to disagree with your thought on the scar being the horcrux.

I would even go so far as to ask was it a horcrux at all? Certainly there was a bit of soul within Harry. But we have already seen that horcruxes take time and planning. At the very least, it's an interesting horcrux - very different to the others.

But essentially, Harry being a horcrux and his scar being a horcrux is the same thing: he has Voldemorts soul fragment inside him, andwould need to die to rid himself of it. But J.K actually writes that it is "inside Harry", not the scar. And Harry still has the scar in the epilogue, after the soul fragment has left him.

Thinking about it, I'd say it is Harry the "horcrux", not his scar.

In answer to your question, although I think someone might have already done so... whilst Voldemort had the pieces of soul he entrusted to horcruxes destroyed, he did still have a (mangled) bit of soul inside him, and so remained alive after Nagini's death.
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Yes, I thought it was Harry who was the Horcrux...a horcrux akin to Nagini, who was also a living creature with a bit of Voldemort's soul in her.

As to Snape's death...Nagini was being kept in her own little bubble to stop anymore (namely Harry) killing her and getting rid of the Horcrux. To kill Snape, Voldemort moved the bubble over Snape, so that he was enclosed in it as well, and Nagini killed him. Which is quite nasty as it meant Snape couldn't get away from her. Then, when Harry was 'killed', Voldemort released Nagini from her bubble, thinking that no one would be a threat to her now...but then in swoops Neville with the sword!
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