Top Ten SF Films

[ilthaniel]

But if you do that even movies that are enjoyable will become irritating to a certain extend... For example; I've never understood why Peter Jackson had Faramir take Frodo and Sam to Osgiliath, I just can't see the use of it, especially since it makes me doubt the wisdom of Faramir the Wise...

[Connavar]

Well i meant if the movie is different but good thats enough.


But there is no excuse if its totaly different and then suck.

I mean Godfather I,II are great movies but the book is alittle better and different, still the movies got what made the book great and thats enough.

Sadly thats the only example of a movie being almost as good as the book i know.

[Steve Jordan]

Originally Posted by Connavar of Rigante

I mean using people as batteries thats the most appealing thing with Matrix.

I thought the idea that we're all really living in a virtual reality, and don't know it, is the most appealing idea in The Matrix.

A movie simply can't be "like the book," and still be a good movie... the two mediums are too different. You have to make changes to the original content to satisfy the film story-telling method, or it shouldn't be done.

[Connavar]

Read my post above the movie not being like book. Thats what i think.


I thought the idea that we're all really living in a virtual reality

Thats the same thing really i mean we lived in VR cause they needed as alive while they used us as a battery

The most shocking and greatest about the movie was when Morpheus explained to Neo about everything really and then showed him the battery cause that whats humans were to the machines.

[iansales]

There are plenty of cases where the film is actually superior to the book. Some examples that spring to mind are Starship Troopers, Marnie, and The Commitments.

[Connavar]

Thats in your OP.


Try finding ten people in these forums thinking ST movie is better RAH's Classic and Hugo Award winning for Best Novel......

[iansales]

I don't think it would be that difficult.

Btw, while the film of Starship Troopers didn't actually win the Hugo in 1998, it was short-listed.

[iansales]

In fact, looking through this thread, I think there's your ten people already. And most of them, I see, have made the same point to you.

[j. d. worthington]

On Starship Troopers: I have to disagree; I don't think the film is superior. But then, the film was going for something completely different than the book; so to me it's sort of like comparing spiced apples and beefsteak.....

[iansales]

Were you eating those at the time you posted? Spiced apples and beefsteak seem a... strange pair to use.

[j. d. worthington]

Originally Posted by iansales

Were you eating those at the time you posted? Spiced apples and beefsteak seem a... strange pair to use.

LOL. No... I was just attempting to pick two things which had about as little in common as two comestibles could....

EDIT: Ooops! Pardon the unintentional alliteration....

[iansales]

Unless you meant beefsteak tomatoes... in which case, they're both fruit. So not all that different :-)

[j. d. worthington]

Originally Posted by iansales

Unless you meant beefsteak tomatoes... in which case, they're both fruit. So not all that different :-)

Touché!

[williamjm]

Originally Posted by Connavar of Rigante

The most shocking and greatest about the movie was when Morpheus explained to Neo about everything really and then showed him the battery cause that whats humans were to the machines.

It's just a pity that motivation doesn't actually make any sense - they'll have to spend more energy keeping the humans alive than they can ever get back from the humans. I wouldn't say it is a major problem, because understanding of the Second Law of Thermodynamics isn't an important part of an action movie's appeal, but it is still slightly irritating. I would have must preferred what was allegedly the Wachowski's original idea - that human's brain capacity was being used to provide computational power for the machines. That would actually have made more sense.

[Steve Jordan]

Originally Posted by williamjm

It's just a pity that motivation doesn't actually make any sense... I would have must preferred what was allegedly the Wachowski's original idea - that human's brain capacity was being used to provide computational power for the machines. That would actually have made more sense.

Agreed, that does make more sense (assuming it's true, because this is the first I'd heard of it). Makes you wonder who would have decided that "human batteries" was more palatable to audiences than "human computers," anyway...