Buggers !

[chump]

Originally Posted by Connavar of Rigante

Less philosopical and more action oriented than Ender's series is what i hear about Bean series. Is that correct?

I think so, Bean's series is pretty action oriented but I have not read the Ender series yet to compare as the books seem to be harder to find.

[Connavar]

Ender series hard to find? Where do you live in north pole


Ender's Game is his most fameous book, it wont be hard finding it.


You must read it specially since Bean is seen first in Ender's Game. Plus it Ender is very interesting character. Its what made the book as good as it is.

[chump]

I've read Ender's game but not the rest of the series. Speaker for the dead is a little bit harder to find then shadow of the hegemon.

[Connavar]

Ah my bad i misunderstood you.

[vervain_ashe]

Keep in mind, these series were concepted of before the W.W.W. At the time, he could not just hop onto his computer and do a "SEARCH". It only existed with the extremely wealthy at that point, if at all. Most like, he did not even HAVE a computer. Read the original copyright date.

[danedane]

I think the whole Bugger name is to show that the society that Card crafted is childish in its way to comprehend the unknown. In his other books he also uses childish alien names like the piggies in xenocide.

[Johnsonab]

I found the Bugger name rather a tad off putting. Made me smirk every time I read it.

I'm English, and from stock that uses the term in all its connotations. From outright sordid buggery, "Oh, bugger me! and "Look at that bugger over there!" That type of stuff.

In the end I had to resort to brain washing myself into reading it as Bugs like Heinlein's Starship Troopers.

Where there any kiddies, who presumably would know the meaning of bugger, from Britain, Ireland, Australia or New Zealand etc.. in the book training with Ender?

I don't think there were, or at least I can't remember. I suppose they never volunteered; with enemies with silly names they never took the war seriously.

[ShrubChucker]

I thought it was just a slang term for the aliens. Like Krauts for the germans in WWII

[Jenfm]

haha Just thinking about it makes me laugh. He does seem to have a thing for the childish alien names as the above post mentioned with the "piggies" later on, I had thought this was just quirky to be honest.

[Lucien21]

Ah the multiple variety of language.

Always makes me laugh. (The Americanisation of the word for rear-end is a completely different anatomy part in the UK :lol

I must admit when I read Enders Game I didn't bother about the name even though it has a different meaning over here.


In other news I have read that they are making an "Enders Game" game for the PS3/360 based around the Battlerooms

Sci-fi novel Ender's Game to become video game | Lifestyle | Living | Reuters

[Connavar]

Originally Posted by Lucien21

Ah the multiple variety of language.

Always makes me laugh. (The Americanisation of the word for rear-end is a completely different anatomy part in the UK :lol

I must admit when I read Enders Game I didn't bother about the name even though it has a different meaning over here.


In other news I have read that they are making an "Enders Game" game for the PS3/360 based around the Battlerooms

Sci-fi novel Ender's Game to become video game | Lifestyle | Living | Reuters

It bothered me cause i watch too much brit shows like Coupling and other comedy shows where they use the word all the time

[Jenfm]

AHhhh How cool would that game be! cant wait.

[Humaren]

I have to admit that when I first saw the name Buggers, I held the book out away from me like an old man trying to see better. I actually said; "What?" aloud. I still enjoyed the book as well as all in the Ender series. But the juvenile nature of the name diminished the story a little for me.

[Shacklock]

Dident really bother me, we dont use the word bugger up north,unless your a bit posh :P Anyway it was just a slang word, like jerrys or yanks etc. Plus there was their official name the Formics anyway.

The Shadow series (beans) was my favourite, only read the Speaker For The Dead series once whih reminds me I should really reread it. Dident like how it ended really.

[orionsixwings]

I think the use of the word Buggers on the enemy is very realistic. During the Vietnam war, the Vietnamese were nicknamed VietCongs or Congs by the American Soldiers, and anyone who displays even a shadow of Hitler is called a Nazi. It's natural for us humans to name our enemies with nicks that make them look or sound inferior to us, which is ideal for this type of enemy since they are--technically--bugs. Plus, the story revolved around children who grew up hearing that word used by the locals. It's like jive or something for their time.