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| Seeker of wisdom Join Date: Dec 2004
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| Bit typical of the whole space opera thing, but... ...I'm working on a race which has an almost feudal society. The main thing is is that I'm not entirely sure if I've missed some titles out of the list I've got. So if anyone can help me, that would be great. The list I've got so far is: Duke Marquis/Marquess Earl Viscount Baron Baronet Knight I'm also intending to add Prince and King/Emperor above the list for the Imperial Family. The ship classes will also owe their classification to the list of nobility (dukeship, for example, would be a command vessel which in another navy would equate to dreadnought, knightship would be a corvette or frigate, and a baronship would be a light cruiser) |
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| Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas
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| Re: Bit typical of the whole space opera thing, but... You might take a look at this Wiki article, and some of the links it provides: Nobility - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia especially this one: A Glossary of Titles in 35 Languages |
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| Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: South Yorkshire
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| Re: Bit typical of the whole space opera thing, but... Different countires have different noble titles. Nor is there much logic to the system - it sort of grew and evolved over the centuries. I'd recommend making up your own - although using the titles you've given. Providing it's consistent, no one's going to quibble. |
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| benign dictator/world Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands
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| Re: Bit typical of the whole space opera thing, but... Quote:
count? Viceroy? Pretender to the Throne? The artist formerly known as Prince? | |
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| Unreg. Mutant Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tyne and Wear
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| Re: Bit typical of the whole space opera thing, but... Just don't include "Knights of the Bath" - I keep expecting to see them get knighted with a loofah or something ![]() |
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| resident pedantissimo Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Switzerland
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| Re: Bit typical of the whole space opera thing, but... Don't knock it; the "oath of fealty", "responsibility balanced by authority" organisation held society together, and stable, longer than any other system except tribalism and (maybe) theocracy. Certainly it's demonstrated its virtues longer than democracy, where the "bread and circuses" mentality is a permanent risk (democracy relies on a decently educated population to function at all, and even then the temptation to short term rather than long term thinking is near overwhelming. 700 years plus, here; anyone better?) Certainly there were abuses of the system; any socio-political organisation gets abused. But there was enough flexibility to absorb the abuse, coupled with a rigid skeleton which guaranteed continuity (no, I prefer our present situation, too; but I was educated for that. The number of people searching for an authority figure on to whom they can hang their responsibilities, the generalised acceptance of dictators and ayatollas suggests that I'm not entirely typical) And "count" must at one time have been a British title; most of the aristocratic tradition comes from the French, with the Normans, but anyway, otherwise, we wouldn't have "counties". But the real difference lies not at the top of the food chain - those titles live on, disturbing almost no-one - but at the bottom where a yeoman or a peasant would look down at a lowly serf...which i hope is dead forever. |
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| Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: South Yorkshire
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| Re: Bit typical of the whole space opera thing, but... Quote:
Perversely, the rank "viscount" was adopted in England. It means "vice-count" - it has the same etymology, from the Latin "comes" (companion). | |
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| Daft Wullie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Greater London
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| Re: Bit typical of the whole space opera thing, but... Quote:
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