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Old 26th February 2007, 01:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Eddi - spoilers!

Did Eddi need to die?
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Old 26th February 2007, 04:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Nope, I certinally dont think so, altho it gave an unexpected twist to a sad ending Leaves oportunity for a squel tho :lol: hehe.

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Old 26th February 2007, 04:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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I think so. Without that, there wouldn't be much emotional weight to the ending. I must admit I was probably more sad when I found out the dog had died. Eddi had tried to turn Robert in, but the dog never did anything. :wink:
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Old 26th February 2007, 04:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Ha ha cillitbang, I'm glad to hear you're an animal lover.
I too think Eddi's death was needed, if she had survived then maybe we would be questioning just how evil Ryan really was, and how much of a threat he ever posed to Robert.


Does anyone out there think Robert and Eddi should have been allowed to live happily ever after :?:
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Old 26th February 2007, 07:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Well, it's certainly debateable

I'm caught between the two. I think Eddi's death was certainly needed, agreeing with M1rage, but I was horrified. Shouldn't Robert at least have some sort of happy ending? Some love perhaps?
I definately think keeping Ryan [[ who I despise more than anything ]] alive was a brilliant thing to do. The whole "never knowing as a punishment" was stupendous.
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Old 2nd March 2007, 03:51 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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i think Eddi not dying would have been more of a shock than her actually dying,
i'm surprised that it's been found "an unexpected twist", i saw it coming from the moment that Robert turned up at her flat.
:?
so i didn't find any emotional ending,
it was too predictable.
on a side note: has anyone seen the Bourne Identity trilogy of films?
and did anyone see any parallels?
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Old 2nd March 2007, 04:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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i think i saw it when she wore the white dress on the last night.
That, for me, was just too much of a tip-off.
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Old 2nd March 2007, 06:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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yeah!!!
and the writing was written as if she had already died!
i would quote, but i haven't a copy with me,
something like
"that was my best memory of her, the one i'll always remember"
well, that's WAY off, but you know what i mean?
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Old 2nd March 2007, 07:17 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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EXCELLENT point! Ha, we've cracked the system!
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Old 2nd March 2007, 07:42 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
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oh yeah!

Looking back, it was impossible for her not to die. I mean, everything just led up to it in some way.
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Old 8th March 2007, 02:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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I was surprised...

I was surprised when Eddi was killed. I had convinced myself she was going to tell Robert she was pregnant (the clues were there - no wine that night, her looking 'radiant' etc.) and that he'd freak out, imagining what was growing inside her, then tell her everything. Maybe then a whole race of replicants (or whatever he is) could have started...
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Old 11th March 2007, 12:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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nice idea.
you could see the writing that way, yes.
i just saw that is was a build up to show how 'in love' with her he was,
and how sacred her memory was to him.
i think she could have been pregnant as well though,
which (if a second book is to be written) would be interesting to see as an autopsy at the start; confused hospitals and government broadening the search...
hhmmm...
but seriously, has anyone seen Bourne Identity and the start of the second film?!!!
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Old 26th March 2007, 02:00 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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Looking back, it was impossible for her not to die. I mean, everything just led up to it in some way.
I'm not sure. When she died I was thrown - I was expecting her to simly be used as a hostage by Ryan. Mind you, she did quite well - I seem to recall her anaesthetize one of Ryan's thugs.
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Old 30th March 2007, 10:26 PM   #14 (permalink)
 
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I don't think she deserved to die, like someone said, Robert needed a happy ending, and i was really shocked when i saw that Eddi had died, i thought they would have shot her somewhere making her out to be dead, and Robert leaving her, only to have her turn up in some sort of sequel with Roberts child.

I mean, she did try to turn him in, but you could tell that there was love there, when they were at the resturaunt, and she said about she couldn't say how she felt as she might cry. And, she was helping him, so she was making up for almost turning her in. And, i have to say, Eddi was a really good character, it was shocking to see her die.
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Old 3rd April 2007, 04:35 PM   #15 (permalink)
 
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I don't think she deserved to die but it worked for the book. I think it helped the ending in the way, showed the humanity of Robert i.e. he couldn't kill Ryan even though Ryan had destroyed his life, then taken away the one person Robert cared about.
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