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Old 10th August 2007, 11:13 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Anything by Blancmange is brilliant
Tasmin Archer Sleeping Satellite
Feargal Sharkey A Good Heart
Scritti Politti Oh Patty
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Old 10th August 2007, 05:11 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Ooh, I'll have to agree with you on the middle two! I love them both.

On my list I'd add The Show Must Go On by Queen, and Saltwater by Julian Lennon.
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Old 25th August 2011, 08:50 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Ooh, I'll have to agree with you on the middle two! I love them both.

On my list I'd add The Show Must Go On by Queen, and Saltwater by Julian Lennon.
I love Saltwater

Just thought of a couple more...

Days - The Kinks
That's Entertainment - The Jam

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Old 30th October 2011, 12:08 PM   #64 (permalink)
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For No One - Paul's first grown-up song, I think; beautiful melody that fits the lyric like some ethereal glove, and perfectly structured.
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Old 16th November 2011, 09:08 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Well...too many to count!
But some that I really like are: Already Home-Thousand Foot Krutch
Last Night-Skillet
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Old 18th November 2011, 01:54 AM   #66 (permalink)
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As opposed to dreadful pieces of pop rubbish that end up played a lot because some guy owns a playlist masquerading as a radio station?
Ghod, to anyone with real ears it's like being tortured.
Try playing some of these things as an instrumental... for ex: I walked into thrift store ten min ago and Supertramp crud was blaring.... horrific!! BAd, bad, bad...Dreeeeeemer... poopPoppoopPeee poopPoo... hideous and offensively childish little.... pop hit.
Beatles wrote a lot of junk, admit it, along with their good ones. Funny though, they did a lot of covers early on, not very well, but the songs were so good- Matchbox, Kansas City etc.- that it did a lot towards sellling them.
Anyone with as much bux as the The rolling seniors will end up with a few good ones... but they should have died decades ago.
It is a TOTAL ILLUSION that these are great pieces of music. There are hundreds, thousands of songs around that are better, (no, it does not depend on your 'taste' in music) for adult ears that is... they just don't get out cos' they arent owned by the right corporate .... people.
Really. Good, nay, great songs are indeed out there, but you won't hear them without great effort.
Don't even get me started. I have to go play now, and if someone pulls out 'Cant always get what you want' or Floyd or I will .... leave the club and go next door where they play ONLY Bob Marley, who I can't stand anymore due to the usual pounding overexposure of the criminal mafia posing as the 'music biz' ...who should be (deleted) and (censored) and soon.
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Old 18th November 2011, 01:59 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Beatles wrote a lot of junk, admit it, along with their good ones. Funny though, they did a lot of covers early on, not very well, but the songs were so good- Matchbox, Kansas City etc.- that it did a lot towards sellling them.


Admitted, but I can't help admiring them nonetheless. Well, perhaps not Yellow Submarine, so much .....

Just popping in to say I just watched some early live Beatles performances and was shocked to find that, on at least one occasion, they played Kansas City and Rock 'n' Roll Music (at least) much better than on the version they committed to vinyl.

As for whether any of it was "Great Music": I stand by my suggestion and recommend a quiet and intellectually engaged listening one day.
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Old 18th November 2011, 02:06 AM   #68 (permalink)
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An intellectual listening to the music of teeenage popsters...ghod help me..I have to play, so much better than they ever could... now...and play blues and country, to which they never quite made it other than spiffy versions heavily produced while the corporation went around crushing the originals out of existence...
Gimme a break. There are real musicians out there, being hammered to death by the absolutely hardcore creeps running the biz like a slave trade.
Beatles are ancient ancient pop history. There is nothing in anything they ever wrote that matches the first 8 bars of anything Fats Waller ever played, not even close.
You are talking about a water pistol as if it's a real weapon, these are kid pop musicians, a false musical reality for dummies.
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Old 18th November 2011, 02:14 AM   #69 (permalink)
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I love it when a mind is made up
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Old 18th November 2011, 02:57 AM   #70 (permalink)
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You know what I'm on about. Those songs that could not be better, not if the writer spent a million years on them. They hit a nerve, they invoke a sense of something personal, they are the liquified, lucozade isotonic sport of music.
The Moody Blues - Nights in White Satin
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Old 18th November 2011, 07:28 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Perfect Albums:
Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast.
Soundgarden - Superunknown
Nirvana - Nevermind
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Megadeth - Rust in Peace, Countdown to Extinction
Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik

Perfect Songs:
Michael Jackson - Thriller
Pink Floyd - Another brick in the wall
Metallica - Enter Sandman
Megadeth - Holy Wars...the punishment due
Fear Factory - Freedom or Fire, Zero Signal
Iron Maiden - Fear of the Dark, Caught somewhere in time.
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Old 18th November 2011, 05:15 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Dreadful racket, again, really painful caterwauling and self-aggrandization over music that would have driven any genuine audience out of the club in two shakes.
The horror of 70s rock - Iron Diaper, Metallicaca.... I hadda teach this stuff hundreds of times and, a decade or two later, can't remember a single tune, cept maybe the stupid enter Sandperson riff, suitable for young (12 and under) future noisemakers.
Try thinking of tunes this way: If the Beatles released it - would it have been a giant hit? If someone else had issued the huge hit of the Beatles or other chosen ones, would it have disappeared quietly? Yes and yes.
Dreadful business, music, really worse than politics. Attracts the worst hyperactive self-centered losers going, and where they get the nerve to get up there is beyond me, but there are a lot of 'em - and this suits the bigbuck people to a T, stops good bands from forming and keeps the cows from noticing that local players are waaay better'n AB/CD or whoever is eating up the demographic at the moment.
Oh, a perfect song? Hmmmm... *Well, the single most recorded tune used to be Tennessee Waltz, can't imagine what tis now, probably that 'Im a loser so why dontcha kill me' one, which is a nice sentiment when applied to a loota modern rock musicians. Or at least a lot of 70s dressup squads like (long list HERE)
Furthermore, oh nevermind.

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An intellectual listening to the music of teeenage popsters...ghod help me..I have to play, so much better than they ever could... now...and play blues and country, to which they never quite made it other than spiffy versions heavily produced while the corporation went around crushing the originals out of existence...
Gimme a break. There are real musicians out there, being hammered to death by the absolutely hardcore creeps running the biz like a slave trade.
Beatles are ancient ancient pop history. There is nothing in anything they ever wrote that matches the first 8 bars of anything Fats Waller ever played, not even close.
You are talking about a water pistol as if it's a real weapon, these are kid pop musicians, a false musical reality for dummies.
Holy condescension batman! All this time I thought I was a grown up only to find out I'm a child for digging on a few Pink Floyd albums after a toke or two...

As to perfect songs, I think the entire Perfect From Now On album by Built to Spill is pretty flawless.

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Oh, a perfect song? Hmmmm... *Well, the single most recorded tune used to be Tennessee Waltz, can't imagine what tis now, probably that 'Im a loser so why dontcha kill me' one, which is a nice sentiment when applied to a loota modern rock musicians. Or at least a lot of 70s dressup squads like (long list HERE)
Furthermore, oh nevermind.
So after ridiculing everyone in this thread for anything they like, you refuse to put your own tastes out here for anyone else to comment?
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Old 18th November 2011, 10:24 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Going out on a limb here, but anything with a catchy riff, perhaps?

Actually, the main point of J Riff's argument is unarguable: politics in music, as in anything else "artistic", is the final decider of quality. Happily, on a few occasions, audience manipulation and audience taste coincide. Less so recently, of course, when practically everything "popular" has been designed to a template and manufactured in full view of an easily impressed mass public.

But now we have the Internet, is that likely to change?

Well, no. The Internet has been around a long time and nothing has changed, really. When I first heard of Lily Allan, I was over the moon, Brian, cos it seemed as though a non-entity had appealed sufficiently to a random audience that she'd broken through to the mainstream, all on the back of her talent.

Then I heard she's Keith Allan's daughter and the scales fell from my eyes.

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So after ridiculing everyone in this thread for anything they like, you refuse to put your own tastes out here for anyone else to comment?
No no, he said Nevermind. The Nirvana fandom managed to leak out

For me, i'll say F.E.A.R. by Ian Brown
Teardrop by Massive Attack
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