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Old 27th March 2007, 02:36 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I don't doubt the series will end with a duel between the two of them. In fact, I'd be more inclined to believe that Dumbledore would be Harry's only hope of defeating Voldermort, as he could be the person capable of teaching Harry the magic necessary to winning the duel. As we've already seen with Snape (in where Harry was trying to disarm him during the end of HBP) Harry is not skilled enough to hope defeating a simple Death Eater, let alone the Dark Lord himself. This is another reason that reinforces Dumbledore's death being a fraud, as I don't see any clear way for Harry to gain enough power, or to have gotten enough training, in the span of a few hundred pages in book 7, to hope being victorious over Voldermort.
And there you've hit the nail on the head, imho!

I think there's no way Harry could win an out-and-out duel between himself and the Dark Lord, so I suspect the plot will be something entirely unexpected.

My theory is this: Dumbledore is dead. Snape is on the good side (we've seen far too many pieces of evidence to think otherwise, as you say. And Dumbledore trusted Snape; I trust Dumbledore). Snape will never be wholly 'good' however. At the end, after disposing of the horcruxes, Harry will have to fight Voldemort, but will lose since there's no way he is powerful enough, or could reasonably use the killing curse.

What? you may be saying. He wants revenge for his parents! Let me explain my theory: During the Pensieve sessions he's already shown remorse for Tom Riddle, and it is my understanding that when JK Rowling said in an interview, re film three and its links with book seven--
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I really got goose bumps when I saw a couple of those things, and I thought, people are going to look back on the film and think that those were put in deliberately as clues
--that she is referring to (among other things) the speech that Remus said to Harry (I can't remember it exactly). Something like, "your mother always saw the good in everybody".

Perhaps, if this is true, and Harry takes after his mum, he won't be able to kill Voldemort, since he's already felt sympathy for Voldemort (and also 'cos Dumbledore seemed in no hurry to train Harry with defensive/offensive spells). Something unforeseen in his blood will defeat Voldemort, I think, something which wasn’t annulled by Voldemort’s resurrection in book three. JK Rowling keeps reminding us how important Harry's blood is -- even Dumbledore did, when they were in the cave.

So, overall, my guess is that, since everyone is trying to work out how Harry can get the duelling skills to kill Voldemort, Rowling is misleading us. Everyone expects him to win, yet in my opinion he's just not capable. Sure, he will go down with a fight, but ultimately he will lose. Which is when, after Voldemort says "Avada Kadavra", some unseen blood magic/spell/mother's gift kicks in and saves the day, just as it did when he was a baby. And Harry can live as a hero, because he did defeat the Dark Lord in some sense; he destroyed his horcruxes!

Or perhaps something in Harry’s blood, which transferred to the Dark Lord on his resurrection, will kill him when the time comes, with a little help from Harry, of course. After all, what was the “gleam of triumph” in Dumbledore’s eyes on hearing about Harry’s blood being used to resurrect the Dark Lord?

What does anyone else think? Am I way off here? Could any of these ideas be true? I suppose we'll only know for sure in July...

But I love working out the clues, and that's what makes it such a fun series!
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Old 5th April 2007, 08:49 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I think we cannot rule out the possibility that Dumbledore wanted Snape to kill him and that when Dumbledore looks at Snape in HBP and says, "Severus...please..." he was trying to convince Snape to go ahead with some previously concocted plan in which Snape would kill Dumbledore in order to gain favor with Voldemort. Think about it- Snape kills Dumbledore, and he becomes Voldemort's right hand man. Then, when Harry goes in for the final fight with Voldemort, then Snape is in a perfect position to help Harry when he needs Snape most, even if Harry must do the final killing. It never says in the prophesy that Harry has to face Voldemort alone, it simply says that if anyone will kill Voldemort it will be Harry. Snape could distract Voldemort at a crucial point- at which point Harry delivers the final blow to the distracted Dark Lord.

Also- In GoF Moody tells Harry and the class that in order for a person to use the Avada Kedavra spell it takes great determination. This could explain Snape's hestitation to kill Dumbledore- he had to be absolutely sure that it was what he wanted or the spell might not work and he could potentially blow his cover as a Death Eater.
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Old 6th April 2007, 03:52 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I think there's no way Harry could win an out-and-out duel between himself and the Dark Lord, so I suspect the plot will be something entirely unexpected.

I agree with you 100% leisha. Harry have escaped from voldemort Four times all by share luck. So i don't thing he's just going to sprout some unexpected powers, or learn advanced magic, because even that can't help him to win against the Dark Lord. Instead i think it has to do with either is blood or that room in the department of Mysteries.

My theory is that harry will find a spell that will enable him to use his blood to thwart Voldemort. Since harry's blood runs through Voldemort's veins, maybe harry will find a spell that gives a double effect, in that if his blood is hurt in anyway the same will happen to voldemort. And this i think he will divulge to voldemort if there is any attempt on his life.

My other theory has to do with the room in the Department of Mysteries. Dumbledore had expressed his concerns to harry about that same room. "There is a room in the Department of Mysteries that is kept locked at all times. It contains a force that is at once more wonderful and more terrible than death, than human intelligence, than forces of nature. It is also, perhaps, the most mysterious of the many subjects for study that reside there. It is that power that you possess
in such quantities.............". Those were Dumbledore's exact words, and they are not to be taken lightly.

I honestly think that to maintain an element of surprise in her work, J.K Rowling will lead us in an entirely obscurred direction and then she will use something that she had previously written or mentioned that was at no significance at the time so it would have meant nothing to us.
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I think there's no way Harry could win an out-and-out duel between himself and the Dark Lord, so I suspect the plot will be something entirely unexpected.

I agree with you 100% leisha. Harry have escaped from voldemort Four times all by share luck. So i don't thing he's just going to sprout some unexpected powers, or learn advanced magic, because even that can't help him to win against the Dark Lord. Instead i think it has to do with either is blood or that room in the department of Mysteries.

My theory is that harry will find a spell that will enable him to use his blood to thwart Voldemort. Since harry's blood runs through Voldemort's veins, maybe harry will find a spell that gives a double effect, in that if his blood is hurt in anyway the same will happen to voldemort. And this i think he will divulge to voldemort if there is any attempt on his life.

My other theory has to do with the room in the Department of Mysteries. Dumbledore had expressed his concerns to harry about that same room. "There is a room in the Department of Mysteries that is kept locked at all times. It contains a force that is at once more wonderful and more terrible than death, than human intelligence, than forces of nature. It is also, perhaps, the most mysterious of the many subjects for study that reside there. It is that power that you possess
in such quantities.............". Those were Dumbledore's exact words, and they are not to be taken lightly.

I honestly think that to maintain an element of surprise in her work, J.K Rowling will lead us in an entirely obscurred direction and then she will use something that she had previously written or mentioned that was at no significance at the time so it would have meant nothing to us.
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I absolutely agree with you, Thor! I do think Snape didn't want to kill Dumbledore, and that's what they were fighting over earlier in the book, when Snape said something like 'Dumbledore took him for granted and maybe he didn't want to do it anymore'. I think he didn't want to follow the plan and kill the old wizard.
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Does this mean we can look forward to some ghostly Obi Wan Dumbledore in "Deathly Hallows"?
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I suspect a duel between Snape and Voldemort, and given Snape's actions so far, I might even bet on him to win.
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My theory is that harry will find a spell that will enable him to use his blood to thwart Voldemort. Since harry's blood runs through Voldemort's veins, maybe harry will find a spell that gives a double effect, in that if his blood is hurt in anyway the same will happen to voldemort. And this i think he will divulge to voldemort if there is any attempt on his life.
Well, I think Voldermort's downfall will definitely involve Harry's blood somehow, since Rowling's made it clear that his blood is important. And as Dumbledore says, the power of his mother's love will always remain in his blood.

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My other theory has to do with the room in the Department of Mysteries. Dumbledore had expressed his concerns to harry about that same room. "There is a room in the Department of Mysteries that is kept locked at all times. It contains a force that is at once more wonderful and more terrible than death, than human intelligence, than forces of nature. It is also, perhaps, the most mysterious of the many subjects for study that reside there. It is that power that you possess in such quantities.............". Those were Dumbledore's exact words, and they are not to be taken lightly.
I think in book seven we'll see the Department of Mysteries again. There's too much left unfinished there, i.e., the voices in the veil, the locked door -- maybe even Sirius himself! (Well, either him or his two-way mirrors!)

We can't rule out the possibility that Sirius' brother is still alive too. Remember, it only states in the books that they believe Regulus is dead -- we've no proof yet...

And until I have proof, I wouldn't put it past J.K. Rowling to surprise us! Hey, then Harry could life happily ever after with Sirius' brother ... or maybe not!
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Does this mean we can look forward to some ghostly Obi Wan Dumbledore in "Deathly Hallows"?
More like a painting hung in the Headmaster's office! The portrait will probably help Harry in some small way -- though he won't give too many answers because a) Harry has to win the battle himself, and b) the painting of Dumbledore probably won't have Dumbledore's memories from the recent events leading to his death. It'll probably just be there as a guide for Harry, and to keep him on the right path with encouraging words!


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I suspect a duel between Snape and Voldemort, and given Snape's actions so far, I might even bet on him to win.
Snape will have to show his allegance to Harry somehow, but I think if it was Snape who eventually kills Voldemort, the readers would feel cheated. Well, that's my opinion anyhow!
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Another thing: in interviews, Rowling never really answer's, other than a "hmm...", when she's told that there's no way Harry could be Griffindor's heir ... so maybe he is somehow, and that's why he weilded the sword in book one, when "only a true Griffindor could have weilded it". Just a thought!

And also, on an unrelated note, since we see the children being sucked into a veil-type monument on the British children's cover version, perhaps Sirius returns alive. Perhaps if the trio do go into the veil they rescue him? Then Harry would get his happily ever after; he could live with him instead.


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One thing we do know -- as Rowling apparently stated in an interview -- Hermione will end up with Ron, after a brief fling with Neville first! I wouldn't have seen that one coming!
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I Think we will definately see more of the Department of Mysteries. There is too much stones left unturned there. I couldn't help thinking about this, it seems a bit suspicious that only Neville, Luna, harry & Ginny could hear the voices behind the veil (not the "sanest"of all people). These are all persons who can see thestrals(and we know the circumstances for seeing thestrals), well with the exception of Ginny but she was possessed by voldemort.

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Really. Whats up with the veil, it just seems a bit too magical Falling behind a curtain and dieing. Another idea of mine is that the D.a squad of OP will return to the veil somehow and by accident they get caught or something you know J.K. Thus it will be a deathly halllow behind the veil.

*Behind the veil seems to me like a bridge to the gate of hell.
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Behind the veil seems to me like a bridge to the gate of hell.
That made me laugh! I couldn't see Rowling putting heaven/hell into her books, though!
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If mugglecast cover cover was not an april joke, then lots of information has been given to what shall happen.
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I was at Fanfiction.com the other day reading some stories and it so happens that about 5 stories that i read, the authors assume that hermione is in the most perils.
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