The greatest anime of all time

[Apoc]

lol heh yeah, re-watching an entire series of anime can be detrimental to your health...I can't recall the Wolf's Rain dub, i think i might have from the off, watched it in japanese...i know through previous shows that dubbing cuts alot from the dialogue so as to sync with the lips...and alot of great dialogue is cut or changed so as to simply sync it up. Also alot of the time the voice actors on dubs are badly chosen and often seem to just be reading a script rather than being a character...drives me nuts heh

[Overread]

I heard that in Witch Hunter Robin - bland voice acting on the part of the dubbers, but Wolf's Rain was well dubbed - that said there are times when subs are worse -- Ghost in the Shell Innocence comes to my mind - the dubs make sense, but the subs are poorly translated and don't add up - a shame!

[Apoc]

Ghost in the Shell Innocence...the original cut i saw did have awful subs but the western official release fixed that and had good understandable subs. Heh i remember watching the riginal cut and there was a part when they're being philosophical in an elevator and all the subs said was stuff like,

"the spoon is bent"

"hmmm the elephant walks across the river, reflected in the moon"

and i was like heh

[Overread]

hmm the edition I have (2 films in one pack) has confusion when they are first talking about the geishas and mentin that they are to head to the police centre - at one point they call it the research centre, then it changes to the police department -- there were a few other things ...

[Apoc]

hmmm all i know is, Bleach, Naruto, Death Note, Evangelion, claymore, azumanga daoh, melancholy of haruhi suzumiya, Akira, ergo proxy, trigun, X, Ninja Scroll and a host of others that i've caught snippets of their english dubs....i've felt very ill and my ears bled.

[Overread]

hmm I thought Akira had good dubs - horrid sync - but good voice acting

[Apoc]

I only saw about twenty seconds of akira in english...and after the third horrifically badly pronounced name i switched it off before i had an aneurysm

[Overread]

hmm have you seen mononoke in english?

[Apoc]

yes, miyazaki is wonderful, seen all his films in both english and japanese...I thought the english dub of that was very good but i still prefered the japanese version.

miyazaki films, champloo and bebop i think have very good dubs and for friends who don't like to read subtitles i show them them in english dub and i'm cool with it...though i still prefer the japanese original ~nods~

[Overread]

Bebop had a wonderful group of voice actors for the english (I watch too much anime at night, so am lazy and use the dubs!) they really brought out the best -- champloo I have only seen the first ep of, but I will certainly catch up at some point --hmm no comment on Grave of the Fire Flys?

[Apoc]

only watched that in japanese. I'm not against others watching anime in english, i just personally can't. As a screenwriter and having studied film for five years i very much hold to seeing what the director intended and what the screenwriter originally wrote.

[Overread]

very true (though to really see it you would have to understand jap - and that I can't!)
I remember seeing both the original realease of Aliens 3 and the directors cut - After that I never bothered with the original again - horrific cutting went on (though I hear that Gangs of New York was 8 hours long originaly!)

[Apoc]

hmmm i guess...I understand japanese, been learnning for awhile but i'm not fluent...and though subs aren't exact translations to whats being said, they're far more accurate than dubs at least for the most parts that i understand that is heh anyways yes...so the greatest anime of all time in my opinion, without a doubt is Akira...as to series i'd say its a Bleach, naruto, Bebop tie heh

[D_Davis]

Originally Posted by Overread

Bebop had a wonderful group of voice actors for the english (I watch too much anime at night, so am lazy and use the dubs!) they really brought out the best -- champloo I have only seen the first ep of, but I will certainly catch up at some point --hmm no comment on Grave of the Fire Flys?

Bebop may be the only anime I've ever seen, and I've been watching the stuff since the mid 1980s, in which the English actors are actually better than the Japanese - at least for the main characters. Way more life, nuance, and personality. I can't watch this show in Japanese, the actors are so boring and lifeless.

[Talysia]

I completely agree about Cowboy Bebop - I find it better with the English dub. (Just about everything else I watch in Japanese, though, if I can help it.)