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Bazza · 1st July 2008, 07:46 AM

Haha I'll post more if I find them.

Tansy · 1st July 2008, 10:43 AM

I seriously am feeling the urge to do a complete re-read

Lady of Winterfell · 1st July 2008, 05:04 PM

Doing a reread right now, just starting AFFC.

Hilarious Joke · 2nd July 2008, 07:10 AM

Isn't it a bit of a drag the second time round, seeing as you know all the crap that's gunna happen?

Young stormlord · 2nd July 2008, 07:23 AM

In ACOK, Arya's false argument that convinced Gendry to run with her was that, once that he's commanding Harrenhall, Vargo Hoat will cut one leg from all of the servants, the left one.

In AFFC, when Jaime gets to Harrenhall, one of Gregors man says that the cook opened the gates for them as a revenge to Hoat for choping of his left leg. The cook is also shown walking funny in the same chapter. So the"Kid" was right after all.

Hilarious Joke · 2nd July 2008, 08:15 AM

Ha ha, that's a good one. Man it's mind-boggling that Martin would keep track of something like that.

Bazza · 2nd July 2008, 11:29 AM

Hilarious Joke - Even though you know what happens, this series has so many characters, hidden details and themes that every time you read back through them you pick up something new you didn't catch before. This thread is living proof of that. There are so many unanswered questions, but GRRM has left us a smattering of clues that may shed some light on what may be. My first read through I had no inkling of the R+J=L theory, once I started catching on to that I was like...woah...who was Rheagar again?

Hilarious Joke · 2nd July 2008, 01:20 PM

Ha ha ha, yeah good point. I guess I'm just relying on other people to point out these awesome obscure cross-references to save me the effort. Keep 'em coming!

Koopa · 3rd July 2008, 09:03 PM

This is probably already mentioned, but when tyrion comments in A clash of Kings about Tanda inviting him for dinner, hoping to wed him to her daughter Lollys, he comments to Bronn, that he should dine and wed lollys in his place.
A couple of books later, he has done just that.

Hilarious Joke · 3rd July 2008, 11:45 PM

Ah Bronn, a smart, evil bas***d, what do people think will become of him?

TK-421 · 4th July 2008, 03:09 PM

Hopefully, he has reached as high as he can.

I do think he has a connection with Varys and it will be interesting what role he plays when Dany and Tyrion come charging into Westeros.

Hilarious Joke · 6th July 2008, 02:53 AM

I thought Varys was with Tyrion!

Bazza · 7th July 2008, 02:17 AM

Forgive me if this is old news but, when the crannogmen was at the Harrenhal tourney:

"There he met her pack brothers: the wild wolf who led them, the quiet wolf beside him, and the pup who was youngest of the four."

I'm assuming the quiet wolf was Ned...

At the feast, "The crannogman saw a maid with laughing purple eyes dance with a white sword, a red snake, and the lord of griffins, and lastly with the quiet wolf...but only after the wild wolf spoke to her on behalf of a brother to shy to leave his bench."

I believe that is Ashara Dayne that Ned is dancing with. Perhaps this is where they first met? First she dances with her brother, Arthur Dayne and Lord Connington. Not sure who the red snake is though.

By the way the mystery knight is totally Lyanna....

Bazza · 7th July 2008, 02:19 AM

I'm betting Varys is still around King's Landing sneaking about in disguise after he drops off Tyrion

Rainswept · 7th July 2008, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boaz

Wait a second, YOSS. You're saying that Cersei commited murder at age... what, twelve?

I need to reread too.

I just happen to be on that chapter, she was 10.

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Bazza Watcher on the Walls Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 159	Re: Not so important connections Haha I'll post more if I find them.

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Tansy Northern Monkey Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: UK: ENGLAND: Posts: 724 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Not so important connections I seriously am feeling the urge to do a complete re-read

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Lady of Winterfell Foxy Lady Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,963	Re: Not so important connections Doing a reread right now, just starting AFFC.

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Hilarious Joke Fool Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia, New South Wales Posts: 1,988	Re: Not so important connections Isn't it a bit of a drag the second time round, seeing as you know all the crap that's gunna happen?

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Young stormlord Thousand eyes and one! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Serbia and Montenegro Posts: 582 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Not so important connections In ACOK, Arya's false argument that convinced Gendry to run with her was that, once that he's commanding Harrenhall, Vargo Hoat will cut one leg from all of the servants, the left one. In AFFC, when Jaime gets to Harrenhall, one of Gregors man says that the cook opened the gates for them as a revenge to Hoat for choping of his left leg. The cook is also shown walking funny in the same chapter. So the"Kid" was right after all.

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Hilarious Joke Fool Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia, New South Wales Posts: 1,988	Re: Not so important connections Ha ha, that's a good one. Man it's mind-boggling that Martin would keep track of something like that.

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Bazza Watcher on the Walls Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 159	Re: Not so important connections Hilarious Joke - Even though you know what happens, this series has so many characters, hidden details and themes that every time you read back through them you pick up something new you didn't catch before. This thread is living proof of that. There are so many unanswered questions, but GRRM has left us a smattering of clues that may shed some light on what may be. My first read through I had no inkling of the R+J=L theory, once I started catching on to that I was like...woah...who was Rheagar again? Last edited by Bazza; 2nd July 2008 at 11:46 AM.

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Hilarious Joke Fool Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia, New South Wales Posts: 1,988	Re: Not so important connections Ha ha ha, yeah good point. I guess I'm just relying on other people to point out these awesome obscure cross-references to save me the effort. Keep 'em coming!

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Koopa Old KiwiBird Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,353	Re: Not so important connections This is probably already mentioned, but when tyrion comments in A clash of Kings about Tanda inviting him for dinner, hoping to wed him to her daughter Lollys, he comments to Bronn, that he should dine and wed lollys in his place. A couple of books later, he has done just that.

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Hilarious Joke Fool Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia, New South Wales Posts: 1,988	Re: Not so important connections Ah Bronn, a smart, evil bas***d, what do people think will become of him?

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TK-421 I Do Not Sow Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,481	Re: Not so important connections Hopefully, he has reached as high as he can. I do think he has a connection with Varys and it will be interesting what role he plays when Dany and Tyrion come charging into Westeros.

6th July 2008, 02:53 AM	#162 (permalink)
Hilarious Joke Fool Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia, New South Wales Posts: 1,988	Re: Not so important connections I thought Varys was with Tyrion!

7th July 2008, 02:17 AM	#163 (permalink)
Bazza Watcher on the Walls Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 159	Re: Not so important connections Forgive me if this is old news but, when the crannogmen was at the Harrenhal tourney: "There he met her pack brothers: the wild wolf who led them, the quiet wolf beside him, and the pup who was youngest of the four." I'm assuming the quiet wolf was Ned... At the feast, "The crannogman saw a maid with laughing purple eyes dance with a white sword, a red snake, and the lord of griffins, and lastly with the quiet wolf...but only after the wild wolf spoke to her on behalf of a brother to shy to leave his bench." I believe that is Ashara Dayne that Ned is dancing with. Perhaps this is where they first met? First she dances with her brother, Arthur Dayne and Lord Connington. Not sure who the red snake is though. By the way the mystery knight is totally Lyanna....

7th July 2008, 02:19 AM	#164 (permalink)
Bazza Watcher on the Walls Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 159	Re: Not so important connections I'm betting Varys is still around King's Landing sneaking about in disguise after he drops off Tyrion

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