Harry Potter sucks

[Rane Longfox]

What a thought provoking topic you've started here.


Maybe Harry Potter would be better with cyborg dragons living in the middle ages. Because thats a plot that makes so much more sense...

[MOUNTAIN THAT READS]

Originally Posted by Dennagon2

I don't know about you guys, but harry potter is more like harry pothead. The plot is just so typical -- a young boy who lives in horrible conditions ends up becoming a great wizard with a destiny. Frankly, I don't see what is so creative about it. It's just common suck-up-to-kids literature.

--Kenneth Eng, Author of Dragons: Lexicon Triumvirate

WOW!! That's one way to say hello.

[Triceratops]

Poor JkR. Now she's offensive to pagans. Last week it was christians. Poor gal's battin' 500.

It seems the kids like her though...and some of the parents.

Chris

[HoopyFrood]

Please can we not turn this into a flaming match, otherwise the thread will have to be closed.

[KiwiBird]

Why dont the mods close it right now, its rather pointless this thread, his sole argument is that he thinks its cr-ap and that its cliché. Big Whoop

I dont get why he ever bothered

[j. d. worthington]

Originally Posted by KiwiBird

Why dont the mods close it right now, its rather pointless this thread, his sole argument is that he thinks its cr-ap and that its cliché. Big Whoop

I dont get why he ever bothered

Don't tend to close 'em unless there's reason. And as for the rest... have you taken a look at the Goodkind threads around here? Oh, my goodness....

[the_faery_queen]

well i think the goodkind thing is valid. mostly cos i said most of the horrible stuff!

i don't understand tho, who is the original poster? cos some peole seem to know him, know his work, and frankly i have NO idea!

but yeah, he could have inspired this conversation better to debate whether jk rowling is worth the hype or not *shrug*

[Saltheart]

Amazon.com: Dragons: Lexicon Triumvirate: Books: Kenneth Che-Tew Eng

ForeWord Magazine - ForeWord This Week Archives

Hil-IGN's Blog - Hil's Blargh!

The second one contains an interview with him. Third one, read the third post for a wonderful introduction to his character.

[Lenny]

Newsflash! Oxford have taken the word "modesty" out of the 2007 edition of their dictionary, claiming that in this day and age the word has been rendered obselete.

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Everyone's entitled to their own views, just as Mr. Eng is entitled to his own.

[pyan]

Originally Posted by Saltheart

Amazon.com: Dragons: Lexicon Triumvirate: Books: Kenneth Che-Tew Eng

ForeWord Magazine - ForeWord This Week Archives

Hil-IGN's Blog - Hil's Blargh!

The second one contains an interview with him. Third one, read the third post for a wonderful introduction to his character.

The writing! The dialogue!! The adjectives!!! The fact that I've just fallen off my chair laughing!

[Morpheus42]

Errmmm.... How many square meters does he cover? My vacuum cleaner is broken.

[Saltheart]

The worst part isn't the fact that his writing is poor, it's the fact that he considers himself a god of writing for being the youngest SciFi author. He even says it somewhere, but I can't find the link.

Listen, your craft will never improve if you are too arrogant to take criticism, or if you consider everyone beneath you. Yes, maybe you were one of the brightest in college, maybe you understand things that a lot of adults can't fathom, but that doesn't make you a god of sorts; that just make you cocky, and you'll never improve that way. Just drop the attitude, if you're really Ken, and be humble.

And I do agree that Harry Potter has dropped in quality, but the way you stated it makes you sound tad immature. With all this said, I'll shut up now, and welcome you to the forums, and hope you do improve as a writer. Good luck, Mr. Eng; I hope I didn't scare you off.

[Teresa Edgerton]

OK, everybody, I think it's time for us all to reflect on the meaning of the word "civility."

We don't have to agree with each other, we don't have to like each other, but let us at least respect these forums enough to play by the rules. One of those rules is courtesy to other members, and that does not include mocking them or making personal attacks.

[littlemissattitude]

Final warning, kids. Disagree all you want, but do it in a civil manner, please. Play nice, please, or the thread will be closed.

[Rane Longfox]

Maybe you should warn Mr Eng about his un-civil posting too?

Originally Posted by Dennagon2

I don't know about you guys, but harry potter is more like harry pothead.

Right, let's discuss this from a proper stand-point, as instructed.

I'm interested in your reasons behind this first comment, Kenneth. Where in the books does the main character use pot?



I'm not claiming it's the most original stuff out there. But why not go and start a similar topic about, say... David Eddings? Maybe you should go on a one-man crusade against crap books. It might take you a while though, unfortunately

The good thing about Harry Potter, in my opinion, and it's something I've heard from many other people too, is that it's got a lot more people actually reading books. This can surely only be a good thing?
Sure, it's not breaking new territory, and it's hardly the most complicated storyline in the world, but thats not what everyone is looking for. Personally, I don't think I would put any of the Potter books even in my top 50 (except maybe book 5, which showed much higher-quality writing than any of the others, and even managed a certain degree of character development, although a worse plot). On the other hand, it's a pretty solid story, there are no glaring internal inconsistancies of the sort that are so common within multi-book series like these, which shows that Rowling has at least thought out her plot very well in advance. She's not trying to write the world's most complicated story - but it's a fun yarn, and a nice break from the high-brow epic stuff that seems to be dominating the fantasy genre at the moment. Also bear in mind that it's kid's book. It's not aimed at adults, so it's hardly fair to look at it the same way...