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7th January 2007, 04:18 PM
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| Registered User  Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vermont
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| The Swords that were ice Hey everyone, I'm new to here. I just have some thoughts and questions on the two swords forged from Ice. Does anybody think that the weird red and black coloring could be significant? It reminded me a bit of Drogon's scales. Also, what happened to the sword given to Joffrey after he snuffed it? We know Jaime gave his to Brienne. |
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7th January 2007, 04:46 PM
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| Thaphireth!  Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Colorado
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| Re: The Swords that were ice Welcome Lady Blackfyre! Good observations and questions. I suppose Joff's sword went into the royal vault... I guess it's Tommen's sword now, unless Tywin sent it back to Casterly Rock. As to the coloring... beats me. |
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7th January 2007, 04:47 PM
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| Lemming of Discord  Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: United Kingdom
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| Re: The Swords that were ice Welcome to the forum! I could be wrong, but I believe Joff's sword has either passed to Tommen or is simply in storage somewhere in the Red Keep. I haven't done an AFFC re-read yet, so I'm not 100% sure. |
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7th January 2007, 05:51 PM
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| Opinionated Procastinator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia
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| Re: The Swords that were ice Heyo....anyone can answer this....Tywin had the sword reforged, I know that....one was giving to Brienne. One was given to Joff.....but what was that one that Sansa saw being carried by Ilyn Payne early on? Was that melted down as well? Or was it a third sword and I missed where they mentioned it? |
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7th January 2007, 07:07 PM
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| Unreg. Mutant Moderator  Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tyne and Wear
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| Re: The Swords that were ice Aegon, when Ned was captured his greatsword "Ice" was given to Ilyn Payne by Joffrey. Later when Twyin came to Kings Landing he took the sword away from Payne and had it melted down to the 2 swords already mentioned. Welcome to the forums, Lady Blackfyre  Last edited by Winters_Sorrow; 7th January 2007 at 09:11 PM. Reason: spelling mistake |
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7th January 2007, 08:16 PM
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| Nimble Tingle  Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Belgium
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| Re: The Swords that were ice I think the red significes Ned blood, you know the blade was black i think from the beginning, and Tywin wanted Lannnister red, instead he got that kinda red, wich i think resembles the blood of Eddard, and perhaps symbolic blood coming from the separation of ice. I think Cersei been using it to slice her butter on her bread |
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8th January 2007, 04:59 AM
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| Re: The Swords that were ice I specifically remember Sansa saying "What have you done to Ice (or my fathers sword)?" Was that one of the smaller models she was referring to? Probably the Joffrey sword. |
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9th January 2007, 05:42 AM
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| Thaphireth! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Colorado
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| Re: The Swords that were ice Brienne's dead. It is known. If someone used Oathkeeper on Stoneheart, I'd be happy. I surmised that Ice was large enough to make two swords from, but that one was much larger than the other. Oathbreaker is a full sized one handed blade, but I guess that the other was smaller, thinner, lighter so that it would more easily be used by fourteen year old Joffrey. Who could end up with this un-named small Valyrian Steel sword? Hmmmm, who uses thin blades? Light blades? And who knows how to stick 'em with the pointy end? |
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9th January 2007, 05:58 AM
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| It's not my fault! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Australia, Queensland
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| Re: The Swords that were ice Even though Joff's sword was smaller, thinner, and lighter than a standard longsword, there'd still be a world of difference between it and a bravo's blade. Amd how would Arya get her grubby little hands on it, anyways? |
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9th January 2007, 10:11 AM
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| Re: The Swords that were ice Quote:
) then I'd bet she could find it with Varys' help.Speaking of the spider, I feel the need to start a thread... | |
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9th January 2007, 04:56 PM
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9th January 2007, 05:03 PM
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| Daisy Toadfoot  Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wiltshire
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| Re: The Swords that were ice Quote:
If I remember correctly, I believe the colouring is simply because they are swords made from re-forged Valyrian Steel. I remember someone saying something to Tywin when he ordered for Ice to be re-forged into two new swords, it boded ill for the owners/users of the re-forged sword (or was it the person who ordered the re-forging?) and that the colour would change because of the re-working. I'd have to look it up to get more details but I think that's correct... xx | |
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