1.13: End of Days

[PTeppic]

Originally Posted by Coolhand

Let me start by apologising for the lack on anagrams in this review. I'm useless at them and so I'm going to leave them to you guys. What I CAN do is sarcasm and you might want to brace yourself because this review contains a lot of it...

I can't claim to be smart about the anagrams - for an overly long and irrelevant reason I have commercial software that does them (it's pretty neat: "Anagram Genius" if anyone's looking for some).

However, your sarcasm is superb. I haven't laughed out loud as hard since... okay since New Year's day (but that was to the swansong final episode of professional, award-winning writers on the telly-box)

Originally Posted by Coolhand

Oh, hate to be a pedant, but didn’t Owen open the rift without all this retina scanning JUST ONE F**KING EPISODE AGO???!?!

Hating myself for trying to justify anything in this Swiss-cheese of an episode pairing, but I guess they're saying that Owen didn't "open" the rift to bring Tosh and Jack back, they just tweaked it a little. Like nudging the curtains to spy on the neighbours, rather than yanking them open to let the morning sunlight in (which they did in this episode to let the Apocalypse in).

[Dr.Jackson]

Originally Posted by moistfish

The reason you've probably all been having trouble finding an anagram is that none of you can spell! His name is Bilis Manager! *tuts*

Actually, his name IS Bilis Manger, it says so on the Torchwood site Torchwood - The Torchwood Institute System Interface

Anyhow, someone has pointed out that Bilis Manger is also an anagram of 'Grim Lesbian'. I've got: I Blame Rings, I Mangle Ribs, and Remains Glib.

[moistfish]

To be perfectly honest, i know there's a lot of complaints that the team is completely dysfunctional and can't do anything, but thats what makes the program interesting. If they were all perfect and everything went fine and dandy there wouldnt be much to enjoy. I think part of what makes the program 'adult' (apart from sex every episode) is the fact that it shows things don't always go right, people don't always work together well, and sometimes the people you need to rely on, you can't really rely on.

[HappyHippo]

that's a fact of life, but having a team of adolescent, dysfunctional, communicationally challenged, sex-obsessed TWERPS in charge of alien clean-up and rift-monitoring is just daft.

[pyan]

I don't know - it works in Government!

[HappyHippo]

oooo, political - if accurate!

Tony Blair and Gordon Brown do have a Jack / Owen thing going on tho....

[pyan]

Or maybe a Jack/Ianto thing.....? Naah

[Dave]

No, that's Tony Blair and John Prescott.

[pyan]

Blurggh! The mental picture............

[HappyHippo]

ewww! *sprays hobnob crumbs in disgust at mental image*

who gets the stopwatch then? XD

[Loner]

Good Gawd!
I just read CoolHand's post and wet myself laughing!

I haven't seen this episode yet. I have only seen upto Small Worlds (ep 5) on DVD as its not released in my corner of the Empire yet.
However I see that nothing has changed except perhaps the "pants-ness" dial has been turned up to eleven.

[pyan]

Originally Posted by Loner

However I see that nothing has changed except perhaps the "pants-ness" dial has been turned up to eleven.

Oh yes. I'd say it gets worse before it gets better, except it doesn't get better.
Mind you, there's a perverse kind of pleasure in watching the series - it almost falls into the " it's so bad it's a classic " sort of area, like watching Sam J. Jones as Flash Gordon!

[Loner]

My friends and I actually enjoy watching itso that we can point out the myriad faults in each episode.

Sad but true.

Like shooting fish in a barrel.
Taking candy from a baby.
Mugging a blind man.

[pyan]

Yet there's actually a credit for "Script Editor"!! I'd like to know what they do!

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Dave

So, has Jack gone for a spin with the Doctor? Or did the Doctor just need "a hand"?

The third Season episode of Doctor Who entitled 'Utopia' explains this partly. I don't want to spoil that, but I do want to return to this, because it still makes no sense.

I think it is safe to say that Jack does go for a spin with the Doctor. In fact, he had been waiting all this time, using the hand as a 'Doctor detector' for the Doctor to return. Apparently, the Doctor frequently returns to the Cardiff Rift to refuel the TARDIS.

But why did Jack pack the hand in his rugsack, except so that it could be used as a plot device in that Doctor Who episode. Once Jack had found the Doctor, he could have left the thing behind, seeing as it is quite heavy anyway.

The Doctor Who episode also explains much about Jack, such as why he is immortal. He is definately not a Time Lord. Spoilers....Rose made him immortal when she used the power of the TARDIS to save him. The Doctor then caused his own regeneration in saving Rose.

Jack is not human, but he has lived right through the 19th and 20th Centuries as an immortal. He fought in both the Great War and Second World War. I expect that just as he took on the identity of Jack Harkness, he has taken on other identities in the traditional time honoured way of other immortals from fiction.

The problem with that is that he was already called Captain Jack Harkness before he met Rose and the Doctor. It is a circular time paradox and it's making my head hurt.

Also, I'm still not sure how Bilis Manger fits into this. Is he an older Jack??

I find myself actually wanting to see Season 2 if only for the explanation.