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Old 27th October 2004, 11:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ursula Le Guin's best?

What would you say is Ursula Le Guin's best novel and short story in her long and reasonably prolific career?

I incline more towards sf, so even though the Earthsea books are a truly excellent read, I'd have to choose my favourite from her sf works.

While there are many contenders, my personal favourite here is The Lathe of Heaven. It's a book about a man in a near future dystopian earth who realises that he can re-shape reality through his dreams. Terrified, he attempts to squash this ability by taking drugs that keep him from dreaming. Instead, he is sent to a psychiatrist for treatment for drugh abuse. The psychiatrist learns of hius powers, and starts using them to reshape the world into a better sate - or so he thinks. Instead, each of his changes, while dealing with real-life problems have often terrifying unexcpected consequences. The dreamer attempts to run away from the docotr, is re-captured, and watches helpless as this monomaniac creates one false utopia after another. The dreamer finally takes matters back into his own hands ands re-establishes a non-ideal (but immensely changed) status quo with the aid of aliens who were created by one of his dream-revisions.

It is mildly Philip K Dick-ian in its subversion of surface reality, but it also deals with LeGUin's recurring theme of the perils of Utopia-building.

Other notable novels are The Disposessed, the Word for World is Forest and The Left Hand of Darkness - each one is a deserved classic, but Lathe is just my personal favourite.

I think the best short story LeGuin has ever written is the Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas, a tale that responds to the classic dillema, 'would you be willing to let one person live in total misery so that millions could have a good life?' with a passionate and resounding 'NO!'.

WHat about you? What do you think are LeGuin's best works, and why?

Here is her bibliography: http://www.ursulakleguin.com/Bibliography-Plain.html
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Old 27th October 2004, 12:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Only ever read one... The Dispossessed... Very good read...
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Old 27th October 2004, 07:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Ursula Le Guin's best?

I'm definnitely up for the recommendations - I haven't read Le Guin yet, but I should.
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Old 6th November 2004, 03:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Ursula Le Guin's best?

I love the first Earthsea trilogy -- because it's so beautifully written, and because it gets better every time I read it.

For SF, I recommend "The Left Hand of Darkness," a truly groundbreaking work in its time.
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Old 21st February 2005, 05:28 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I think that it is a tough call between Lathe of Heaven and Left Hand of Darkness. Both are excellent novels.

I agree with all that was said about Lathe of Heaven. I like the way it plays out the power struggles throughout. I like the fact that LeGuin subtly begins with a sort of gender role reversal between Lelache and Orr, and that role reversal is shifted to a more traditional one through on of the reality-revising dreams. I also like the way the book deals with the conflict of action v. inaction in light of some very man-made messes in the world, not too far fetched ones at that. These things are secondary to her concepts of utopian building in the novel, which are dealt with extremely well.

I think that Left Hand of Darkness does some very interesting things with gender, far more overtly in this work. The tension, sometimes revulsion, that Genly Ai feels in reaction to the androgynes is palpable. And it's this that allows LeGuin to critique those behaviors that even the reader has learned are "supposed" to be attached to males and those that are "supposed" to be attached to females.

She is also one of those writers who can flat out tell a great story.
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Old 27th March 2005, 10:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Ursula Le Guin's best?

Thanks Knivesout for the mention of Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas, I actually came here to post a question about a short story By Le Guin that was brought up in an Ethics class from a few years ago (didnt get around to reading it and couldnt remember the name) and that definately sounds like it


I've only read the Earthsea books so far, and not the latest one at that. But i saw Lathe of Heaven in the SF Masterworks releases the other day and intended on reading it after i finish Blood music.
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What would you say is Ursula Le Guin's best novel and short story in her long and reasonably prolific career?

I incline more towards sf, so even though the Earthsea books are a truly excellent read, I'd have to choose my favourite from her sf works.

While there are many contenders, my personal favourite here is The Lathe of Heaven. It's a book about a man in a near future dystopian earth who realises that he can re-shape reality through his dreams. Terrified, he attempts to squash this ability by taking drugs that keep him from dreaming. Instead, he is sent to a psychiatrist for treatment for drugh abuse. The psychiatrist learns of hius powers, and starts using them to reshape the world into a better sate - or so he thinks. Instead, each of his changes, while dealing with real-life problems have often terrifying unexcpected consequences. The dreamer attempts to run away from the docotr, is re-captured, and watches helpless as this monomaniac creates one false utopia after another. The dreamer finally takes matters back into his own hands ands re-establishes a non-ideal (but immensely changed) status quo with the aid of aliens who were created by one of his dream-revisions.

It is mildly Philip K Dick-ian in its subversion of surface reality, but it also deals with LeGUin's recurring theme of the perils of Utopia-building.

Other notable novels are The Disposessed, the Word for World is Forest and The Left Hand of Darkness - each one is a deserved classic, but Lathe is just my personal favourite.

I think the best short story LeGuin has ever written is the Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas, a tale that responds to the classic dillema, 'would you be willing to let one person live in total misery so that millions could have a good life?' with a passionate and resounding 'NO!'.

WHat about you? What do you think are LeGuin's best works, and why?

Here is her bibliography: http://www.ursulakleguin.com/Bibliography-Plain.html
Hi Knivesout and everyone else here,

Have you checked out my new thread that will feature a "classic" fantasy author/week titled Classic Fantasy Pre 1980s in the Books & Literature Forum yet?? Please stop by and post a comment if possible as Ursula will be one of the authors featured, although probably not in huge detail as she appears in this Author forum already. Everyone, maybe you could suggest a great fantasy author or two I've missed based on the crtieria I have posted there?

Anyway Ursula K. LeGuin holds a special memory for me because her original Earthsea trilogy was I thnk the first fantasy books I ever read way back in the mid '70s and got me on the path to the fantasy series ever since!! Therefore I would have to vote for The Earthsea series and for the Sci Fi stable The Left Hand Of Darkness as her two greatest works.

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I love Leguin's EarthSea work, however, I think it's hands down Left Hand of Darkness.




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Old 30th March 2005, 04:52 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks Knivesout for the mention of Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas, I actually came here to post a question about a short story By Le Guin that was brought up in an Ethics class from a few years ago (didnt get around to reading it and couldnt remember the name) and that definately sounds like it

Hey, cool! Glad to be of help! Do read the story if you can - one of the best things I've read.
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Re: Ursula Le Guin's best?

I've read quite a bit of le Guin, my favourite has got to be The Left Hand of Darkness, although the Tombs of Atuan comes to mind as well. As for a short story I would say Paradises Lost.
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I enjoyed her Earthsea Novels personally, though to be fair I have only read a little of her sci fi. There is one book whose title escapes me, which I thought was rather good, which I'm almost certain was by her. Something about a different version of Pysche, with a really really ugly girl, in conflict with those who are beautiful.
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I have only read Earthsea in which I found the second two extremly boring!
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I watched the Earthsea film recently and though it was very poor I was still quite interested on how the book portrayed events. I think I will buy that trilogy in my next book splurge.
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Old 29th April 2005, 04:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Novel: The Dispossessed

Short: "The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas"

(Which is, IMO, her finest work overall. Anyone who can read that final, gorgeous paragraph without tears in their eyes needs to get their emotions checked. )
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Old 14th June 2005, 09:44 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Ursula Le Guin's best?

The Left Hand of Darkness would of course be a strong candidate, but for my personal favourite(s), I would have to bring forth some of her less known work:

The Eye of the Heron, about a "riot" on a prison planet, a sad, moving story about those wise, friendly characters I would think we all love.
But there is also the first UKL I read, Orsinian Tales, which is halfway "mainstream", about the lives of people in the imaginary Eastern European country Orsinia.

Both these books posess a sort of tender beauty that marks out Le Guin as the best writer I've ever read.
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