Hogfather part 1

[Joel007]

reaper man, i think. That was due to a buildup of life, rather than belief. Its a good book

[Faceless Woman]

Of course. Both to Reaper Man and good book. It is a pTerry after all.

[nixie]

Watched this never having read a Pratchett book, never been able to get into them but this was highly entertaining

[Scriven]

Watched the second part last night. I found it a bit slower than the first, but enjoyed in nonetheless. I loved the scene where Death gave Susan a Hogswatch card.

Originally Posted by Patrick Mahon

It's supposed to be coming out on DVD in the UK some time before Easter as I understand it - see the following Amazon UK page for (a very few) more details. Will only be a region 2 DVD though - so will only play in UK, Europe, and a few other places.

Amazon.co.uk: The Hogfather (region 2 DVDs are playable in the whole of Europe, not just the UK): DVD

Nice, I'll get that when it's out.

[Joel007]

Oh, did they do the bit in the book where death mentions that he added the lights and noise to the poker?

[Adasunshine]

Yes they did Joel007!!

I've only read Colour of Magic & The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents aside Good Omens and I thoroughly enjoyed those books but having not read the Hogfather I thought that this TV adaptation was fantastic, I see most of you are not quite as enthusiastic as I am about it but I loved it, I Sky-plussed it and will prolly get the DVD when it comes out. I just thought it was brilliant, all the little jokes that were put in (the hourglass... out of cheese error on Hex being particularly funny) were just fab, I laughed out loud numerous times and I loved Death in Colour of Magic (the small part he played) and this made me love him even more... wonderful character and Ian Richardson's voice suited him perfectly... The "I couldn't possibly comment" line was genius (if any of you watched House of Cards you'll know).

All in all I loved it and will probably watch it again very soon.

xx

[pyan]

Ada, if you've only read TCOM of the Discworld books, skip a few in the writing order, and try Mort or Guards, Guards - they are far more typical of the series than TCOM, and much more developed.

[sanityassassin]

I agree with pyan I don't think the Rincewind books are the best in the series.

I enjoyed the Hogfather, it was a good adaptation and I thought teatime and Banjo were well cast especially and the Hogswatch card was very funny

[the_faery_queen]

end went on too long. shoulda stopped. the whole, without hope moral thing, was nice and made sense and all, but then it felt like there was another ending tagged on the end with teatime dying. poor cute bady

again confused. if susan's mother was adopted by death, that means death isn't actually her grandfather, right? and her father was human? so what was her mother? was she human? where did susan get her magic from

[chrispenycate]

Discworld genetics are different from here; and Mort, who I believe was Susan's father(?) had been Death's aprentice (and learnt to walk through walls and such) but it was through Ysabbel (oops, spelling? Have to reread Mort) she inherited her particular abilities (already run in in "Soul music")
You just have to accept a different genetic system, probably ignoring chromosomes and DNA and all those complicated things, and based on proximity.

[Joel007]

As pTerry puts it, she was his granddaughter "in the bone".

[the_faery_queen]

ah. see i can't just accept things like that. i like things explained or to make sense. and that of course didn't come out in a tv show. so it's just confusing to me.

[Joel007]

He's said it enough now that he probably assumes any discworld reader should pick up the way magic works and science doesn't in the books.

[the_faery_queen]

yeah but this was tv. not everyone who watched it would read his books. i don't. i won't eitgher. it didn't do anything for me really.

[chrispenycate]

Originally Posted by the_faery_queen

ah. see i can't just accept things like that. i like things explained or to make sense. and that of course didn't come out in a tv show. so it's just confusing to me.

And wast it not thou who wrote:-

i like fantasy because it's not got any sciencefiction ness to it. no science to worry about, no uniforms or space battles or space ships or other worlds. i find all of that rather ailen and requiring some level of understanding to how things work, or at least, the pretense that you can make it up.

you don't need that with fantasy. as long as it's consistant, it's ok. and if in doubt, well it's magical! that's how the castle is pink and can fly, magic! :P

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i've always loved fantasy. never sci fi. i find sci fi too cold and ailen. i like dragons and fantasy creatures, swords and casltes and magic over space ships and ailens and lazer guns

pTerry is nothing if not consistent, and one may consider that the film is aimed at those who've already visited the discword, through print. Realistic? Perhaps not; but you've informed us that you can tolerate that, if the author maintains a constant position.
Mr Pratchett does not try to suspend disbelief; he builds palaces with it, and laughs at the result. It is true that his oeuvre pokes fun at traditional, more serious fantasy; but it also pokes at several other forms of literature, not to mention a wide swathe of reality. For me, if the film had maintained a constant, logical structure it would not have been true to the books, which invariably dump a perfectly lateral non-sequiteur on you just when they seem to be at their most logical and linear.