Ps3

[Brys]

Originally Posted by Aes

The blu-ray drive has a better purpose in the ps3 than just "playing movies that we don't need right now." Blu-ray discs hold more data than DVDs (what PS2 games are stored on) so think of it this way: Which would you rather deal with? 1 game on 1 disc? Or 1 game on 5 discs?

Bear in mind, data for PS3 games is going to need more storage space than data for PS3 games.

But it's more expensive to produce games on Blu-ray. Until it's absolutely necessary (and cheaper) to use Blu-ray, they'll stick with DVDs. At the moment, that shouldn't be a problem at all. The largest game I know of on any platform is Medieval Total War II, at 11 GB on two DVDs - that isn't even close to the 50 GB of Blu-Ray or the 30GB of HD-DVD. And PS3 games are unlikely to take up nearly as much space as MTW II (though I don't even know why that took up so much space - its predecessor was less than half the size)
For a few years at least, Blu-ray will be irrelevant.

[Green]

It's pretty much absolutely necessary right now. When is the next Sony Playstation going to come out? 5 years? More?

If they didn't include the Blu-Ray now, then the PS3 would be seriously behind the times in just a couple of years (not just because the XBox360 has HD-DVD). They have to do all they can to keep up with the revolution that will be DirectX 10, and part of that will be the storage capabilities offered by Blu-Ray.

They've also taken a huge gamble with putting their flag in the ground with Blu-Ray, so they would be foolish to leave it out of the PS3 in order to sell the technology in stand-alone players in a couple of years' time. Whether or not Sony's decision to get behind the technology to such an extent is a wise one, we will have to wait and see.

[Green]

Originally Posted by Brys

11 GB on two DVDs - that isn't even close to the 50 GB of Blu-Ray or the 30GB of HD-DVD.

I'd say that's very close, especially since the PS3 has only just been released. That's more than a third for the HD-DVD, and at the rate technology advances, that will be filled in no time.

[Crymic]

think i heard sony is losing money on the $60 or maybe it was $160 on the low end model and $300 on the high end model. I dunno how sony manages to screw up launchs of their gaming systems. Don't they beta test their stuff first?

[Green]

It's customary to lose money on a games console as it ships - they more than make up for it on the games (unless the console flops). It's the same with the XBox 360, and was the same with the previous gen, too.

[Winters_Sorrow]

Originally Posted by Aes

Which would you rather deal with? 1 game on 1 disc? Or 1 game on 5 discs?

Obviously it's better to have 1 game = 1 disc but it's not essential (for me at least).
I remember the multiple discs for FFVII & VIII on the PS1 and I have no problem with changing discs in a game. Conversely the loading screen which appears in some games when you enter a new area or room really annoys me

[Jason_Taverner]

has anyone seen the big launch title, its an alternative timeline FPS, looks great but can't remeber the name,

[Winters_Sorrow]

Presume you mean Resistance:Fall of Man?Haven't seen any demos of it though, so no idea how it is.

[Jason_Taverner]

winter sorrow my friend says there is a playable PS3 in the baltic at newcastle he had a go said it was great, he had to fight off about 30 kids

[Bedlam]

There was a new mag’ in the shops titled simply ‘Playstation’ it was chock-full of all the latest info currently available for the PS3. Apparently the new Blu-ray CD’s are HUGE, allowing the Blu-ray laser inside the console - far more accurate than the old red laser of PS2 - to see more information. There was a list of comparisons between old hardware and this new Blu-ray. One of them read: a dual-layer HD-DVD boasts an impressive sounding 30GB of storage. The Blu-ray, with its accuracy and size raises this by almost 70%, offering 50GB, possibly more. Now that’s a lot of game!
I personally think we’re all gonna be blown away by the PS3. The games will be huge. Take a look at Xbox360 footage of Assassin’s Creed on Youtube, then compare that to what it will eventually look like on the PS3.
Whoa mamma!

[Joel007]

Blu-ray DVD is capable of 200GB, assuming they can ensure its stability anyway. I don't get why they've never thought of releasing games as usb hard drives with self launchers. No OS to screw anything up, just a BIOS and whatever system they'd want to put on their game.
Maybe it would cost too much, although given the average cost of a game it might not be an issue for much longer.