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Leto · 16th January 2005, 06:32 PM

If you want mopre of the same universe (or quite similar enough), check Flow my tears, said the policeman, Still K Dick, still replicant problem. A lot less naive.

JED · 30th November 2007, 09:46 AM

I don't think he was , the whole film is about him dealing with the rouge replicants and then breaking away with the girl, but, the film is annoyingly ambiguous to say the least...

Tomk1 · 5th December 2007, 07:22 AM

Personally I don't see what sence it would make for Deckard to be a replicant. Like there had to be more than 6 or 8 replicants in existance, it would be reasonable to assume that the hunting of replicants was not a new thing. He had to study them like any law enforment and and even became obsessed with them. (like any hollywood-cop-baddie movie)

Just I question was there a follow up book because I think I had a Blade runner book when I was young of which I only read fist few chapters and it went like "Decker and Rachael was on the run/hiding out in a cabin in the mountains and the cabin was surrounded by cops".

any idea?

F'Lessan Amused · 11th December 2007, 07:15 PM

nope there wasnt...the bladerunner book and dick's android is very different having read both

starman7 · 1st February 2008, 04:22 PM

Ridley Scott intends to Deckard to be a replicant. Therefore he IS.

F'Lessan Amused · 8th February 2008, 12:33 AM

but ford acted as if he was human

Vladd67 · 22nd February 2008, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomk1

Just I question was there a follow up book because I think I had a Blade runner book when I was young of which I only read fist few chapters and it went like "Decker and Rachael was on the run/hiding out in a cabin in the mountains and the cabin was surrounded by cops".

There is
Blade Runner 2 The Edge of Human
Blade Runner 3 Replicant Night
Blade Runner 4 Eye and Talon
all by K W Jeter

Heretic · 7th April 2008, 06:58 PM

I say Replicant because in the fighting scenes, while Deckard and his opponents fought in regular speed, the background slowed down; and replicants I think are fast.

marty.hale · 27th April 2008, 09:54 PM

I recently wrote an essay on the book. The main theme of the book (and all of Dick's works), is that there *cannot* be one base reality experienced by everyone. Every person's reality is equally valid as they experience it.

Running throughout the book is Deckard's questioning of his own humanity and a strange duality; Chaos and order/life and death/human or synthetic/ real or unreal - also please look into the 'phantom twin' motif explored in many of his works; he was born with a twin sister who dies shortly after birth; this loss haunted his works

In one chapter Deckard is arrested by a cop who claims he has no record of Deckard on file as a registered blade runner. He takes him to a parallel police HQ, which turns out to be run entirely by androids, with a human blade runner working (the only blade runner and human in the department). Therefore with these themes of duality/mirror realities it is strongly suggested that it is entirely possible that Deckard is in fact a replicant himself, albeit one with implanted memories to make him think he is human. - He may well be the only <i>replicant</i> working in a department full of humans! It all depends on whose viewpoint you choose to take.

-- see also 'Impostor' and 'A Scanner Darkly' for more extreme examples of this same running theme in Dick's work.

Androids are indeed illegal on earth, however; Rachael is living legally on earth as she is technically the property of the Rosen Association. As a programmed android working for the police department (or maybe also for the Rosen association to clear up the mess and bad publicity caused by some of their creations running amok), Deckard would also then technically be allowed on earth.

The book strongly implies that Rick may or may not be synthetic, but is strongly ambiguous. This is to emphasize the point that reality is totally subjective. The film isn't nearly as confrontational in this respect, although the final cut does do more justice to the book in this respect.

Anyway I am producing a series of illustrations for the book (4 plus cover) based around the themes stated earlier; Chaos and order/life and death/human or synthetic/ real or unreal, and would really appreciate anybodies feedback and especially suggestions on where I could take this or suggested passages from the book.

- Look forward to some input guys

Chmee · 11th May 2008, 07:41 PM

Picture a world were there can make a machine that can think like a human and is stronger than a human.

What else might then have invented? Maybe they can for example implant dreams into someone. Maybe the want him to think he was a replicant.

if anyone can see a flaw in this please point it out.

16th January 2005, 06:32 PM	#31 (permalink)
Leto Outside Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,332	Re: Bladerunner: Was Deckard a replicant? If you want mopre of the same universe (or quite similar enough), check Flow my tears, said the policeman, Still K Dick, still replicant problem. A lot less naive.

30th November 2007, 09:46 AM	#32 (permalink)
JED Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 21	Re: Bladerunner: Was Deckard a replicant? I don't think he was , the whole film is about him dealing with the rouge replicants and then breaking away with the girl, but, the film is annoyingly ambiguous to say the least...

5th December 2007, 07:22 AM	#33 (permalink)
Tomk1 1001100010101001001010001 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 2	Re: Bladerunner: Was Deckard a replicant? Personally I don't see what sence it would make for Deckard to be a replicant. Like there had to be more than 6 or 8 replicants in existance, it would be reasonable to assume that the hunting of replicants was not a new thing. He had to study them like any law enforment and and even became obsessed with them. (like any hollywood-cop-baddie movie) Just I question was there a follow up book because I think I had a Blade runner book when I was young of which I only read fist few chapters and it went like "Decker and Rachael was on the run/hiding out in a cabin in the mountains and the cabin was surrounded by cops". any idea?

11th December 2007, 07:15 PM	#34 (permalink)
F'Lessan Amused Local Boy In Photograph Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Borders Posts: 96	Re: Bladerunner: Was Deckard a replicant? nope there wasnt...the bladerunner book and dick's android is very different having read both

1st February 2008, 04:22 PM	#35 (permalink)
starman7 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: UK: ENGLAND: Posts: 17	Re: Bladerunner: Was Deckard a replicant? Ridley Scott intends to Deckard to be a replicant. Therefore he IS.

8th February 2008, 12:33 AM	#36 (permalink)
F'Lessan Amused Local Boy In Photograph Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Borders Posts: 96	Re: Bladerunner: Was Deckard a replicant? but ford acted as if he was human

7th April 2008, 06:58 PM	#38 (permalink)
Heretic Writer's block Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 70	Re: Bladerunner: Was Deckard a replicant? I say Replicant because in the fighting scenes, while Deckard and his opponents fought in regular speed, the background slowed down; and replicants I think are fast.

27th April 2008, 09:54 PM	#39 (permalink)
marty.hale Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Belfast Posts: 1	Re: Bladerunner: Was Deckard a replicant? I recently wrote an essay on the book. The main theme of the book (and all of Dick's works), is that there cannot be one base reality experienced by everyone. Every person's reality is equally valid as they experience it. Running throughout the book is Deckard's questioning of his own humanity and a strange duality; Chaos and order/life and death/human or synthetic/ real or unreal - also please look into the 'phantom twin' motif explored in many of his works; he was born with a twin sister who dies shortly after birth; this loss haunted his works In one chapter Deckard is arrested by a cop who claims he has no record of Deckard on file as a registered blade runner. He takes him to a parallel police HQ, which turns out to be run entirely by androids, with a human blade runner working (the only blade runner and human in the department). Therefore with these themes of duality/mirror realities it is strongly suggested that it is entirely possible that Deckard is in fact a replicant himself, albeit one with implanted memories to make him think he is human. - He may well be the only <i>replicant</i> working in a department full of humans! It all depends on whose viewpoint you choose to take. -- see also 'Impostor' and 'A Scanner Darkly' for more extreme examples of this same running theme in Dick's work. Androids are indeed illegal on earth, however; Rachael is living legally on earth as she is technically the property of the Rosen Association. As a programmed android working for the police department (or maybe also for the Rosen association to clear up the mess and bad publicity caused by some of their creations running amok), Deckard would also then technically be allowed on earth. The book strongly implies that Rick may or may not be synthetic, but is strongly ambiguous. This is to emphasize the point that reality is totally subjective. The film isn't nearly as confrontational in this respect, although the final cut does do more justice to the book in this respect. Anyway I am producing a series of illustrations for the book (4 plus cover) based around the themes stated earlier; Chaos and order/life and death/human or synthetic/ real or unreal, and would really appreciate anybodies feedback and especially suggestions on where I could take this or suggested passages from the book. - Look forward to some input guys

11th May 2008, 07:41 PM	#40 (permalink)
Chmee 100% Angry Bunny Join Date: May 2008 Location: Merseyside Posts: 4	Re: Bladerunner: Was Deckard a replicant? Picture a world were there can make a machine that can think like a human and is stronger than a human. What else might then have invented? Maybe they can for example implant dreams into someone. Maybe the want him to think he was a replicant. if anyone can see a flaw in this please point it out.