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Old 1st January 2008, 08:45 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Just completed a collection entitled The Loved Dead ... it's a collection of Lovecraft collaborations and has a foreword of the rates he charged for his services. They feel terribly low and he was often not even paid that small amount.

The book contains:
The Green Meadow
Poetry and the Gods
The Crawling Chaos
The Loved Dead
The Horror at Martin's Beach
Imprisoned with the Pharoahs
The Last Test
The Black Bottles
The Thing in the Moonlight
The Curse of Yig
The Mound
Medusa's Coil
The Trap
The Man of Stone
Out of the Aeons
The Disinterment
The Diary of Alonzo Typer
Within the Walls of Eryx
The Night Ocean
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Old 2nd January 2008, 09:06 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Just completed a collection entitled The Loved Dead ... it's a collection of Lovecraft collaborations and has a foreword of the rates he charged for his services. They feel terribly low and he was often not even paid that small amount.

The book contains:
The Green Meadow
Poetry and the Gods
The Crawling Chaos
The Loved Dead
The Horror at Martin's Beach
Imprisoned with the Pharoahs
The Last Test
The Black Bottles
The Thing in the Moonlight
The Curse of Yig
The Mound
Medusa's Coil
The Trap
The Man of Stone
Out of the Aeons
The Disinterment
The Diary of Alonzo Typer
Within the Walls of Eryx
The Night Ocean

The one thing that doesn't qite fit in there is "The Thing in the Moonlight", since it's not a revision or a collaboration, but an excerpt from a letter to which a magazine editor added an opening and an end.
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Old 9th April 2008, 08:14 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I got the Gollancz Necronomicon today.

Just as I suspected, it's got corrupted texts -- but not as bad as the Omnibus series, since some (but only some!) of the corrections from the Arkham House editions have been used. For example, in "The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath" there are "bholes" instead of "dholes" (which is correct), but also "Zoogs" instead of "zoogs" and "Throk" instead of "Thok" (which are not). "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward" mentions, as expected, a book by "Artephous" instead of "Artephius", "Hacher's Hall" instead of "Hacker's Hall" and "the scow Fortaleza instead of "the snow Fortaleza"; at least, it hasn't got the same first line in two chapters which has plagued the text of "Ward" in most incarnations I've seen. And of course, "The Shadow Out of Time" has a couple of sentences missing, as have all versions except The Shadow Out of Time: The Corrected Text, Tales and The Dreams in the Witch House and Other Weird Stories.

In other words, textually speaking this book is little better than the Omnibus volumes or the Del Rey volumes.

But it's a damn'd fine-looking book, with plenty of illustrations.

Here's the table of contents:

Night-Gaunts
Dagon
The Statement of Randolph Carter
The Doom That Came to Sarnath
The Cats of Ulthar
The Nameless City
Herbert West -- Reanimator
The Music of Erich Zann
The Lurking Fear
The Hound
The Rats in the Walls
Under the Pyramids
The Unnamable
In the Vault
The Outsider
The Horror at Red hook
The Colour Out of Space
Pickman's Model
The Call of Cthulhu
Cool Air
The Shunned House
The Silver Key
The Dunwich Horror
The Whisperer in Darkness
The Strange High House in the Mist
The Dreams in the Witch-House [sic]
From Beyond
Through the Gates of the Silver Key (with E. Hoffmann Price)
At the Mountains of Madness
The Shadow Over Innsmouth
The Shadow Out of Time
The Haunter of the Dark
The Thing on the Doorstep
The Case of Charles Dexter Ward
The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath
To a Dreamer
Afterword: A Gentleman of Providence by Stephen Jones

for a grand total of 883 pages.

Do I recommend it? Yes. But only if you've already got the Penguins and want a big beefy fake-leather volume with nice illustrations. If you haven't got the Penguins, get them instead. They've got all the texts contained in this book except the two poems "Night-Gaunts" and "To a Dreamer", and Jones' afterword (which is pretty good except for some pretty big blunders, such as the claim that "The Survivor" "was the story closest to completion at the time of the author's death" and describing Lovecraft Studies as a "fan publication").

I'm quite sure that there'll be a collection using the corrected texts eventually.
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Old 9th April 2008, 09:52 PM   #34 (permalink)
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...and "the scow Fortaleza instead of "the snow Fortaleza"...
Question on that one; perhaps my memory is playing tricks on me, but I'd thought "snow" was correct, as it referred to a type of brig used as a merchant vessel....?

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Old 9th April 2008, 10:41 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Question on that one; perhaps my memory is playing tricks on me, but I'd thought "snow" was correct, as it referred to a type of brig used as a merchant vessel....?

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Yes, sorry for being unclear: all the things I'm listing for "Ward" are errors that appear in the text in Necronomicon. "snow" is the correct word.

And these are just the ones I've found at a quick glance. *sigh*
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But it's a damn'd fine-looking book, with plenty of illustrations.
(Regarding the Gollancz edition)...So it's out already, can you tell me where from, as in Amazon it is still in preorder?

And just out of curiosity, "plenty" means it has more illustrations than the Conan edition? Which has, oh maybe about 5-7 and then some smaller ornament type drawings.
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Old 15th April 2008, 05:00 PM   #37 (permalink)
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[quote=sacateca;1101364](Regarding the Gollancz edition)...So it's out already, can you tell me where from, as in Amazon it is still in preorder?[/i]

I bought it at the SF-Bokhandeln in Gothenburg, and Böcker och litteratur - AdLibris Bokhandel. Handla böcker från din bokhandel. has it available as well, as does Amazon UK.

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And just out of curiosity, "plenty" means it has more illustrations than the Conan edition? Which has, oh maybe about 5-7 and then some smaller ornament type drawings.
The Gollancz Conan pales when compared to the Del Rey editions...

Anyway, this Gollancz Lovecraft has Gahan Wilson's map of Arkham on the flyleaves, a frontispiece by Les Edwards of Cthulhu in R'lyeh, a picture of the Cthulhu statuette on the title page, part of a Lovecraft manuscript ("History of the Necronomicon") on p. 4, and 7 full-page illustrations by Edwards in addition to numerous smaller illustrations. The afterword on Lovecraft has several nice photographs.
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Thanks a lot for the infos, sounds wonderful indeed.
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You have any idea how much he wrote?Just listing the titles would exceed the sig limit.

To fiction-not even online stu has th BIG 4,the four colabs with Eddy,for which I have ben searching for years without resutls.
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You have any idea how much he wrote?Just listing the titles would exceed the sig limit.
Just over 700,000 words, according to my files. There's a complete list at HPLA - Lovecraft's Fiction - Chronological Order

It omits only "The Hoard of the Wizard-Beast" and "The Slaying of the Monster", I think -- very slight revisions of two Barlow stories.

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That's because Eddy's grandson is pretty good at enforcing his copyright. But they're not particularly difficult to find; they're in The Horror in the Museum and Other Revisions. Any decent library should have that.

Not that they're very good, and the description "the BIG 4" had me snorting with laughter.
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Not in this country im afraid.There were no publications of HPL in this country EVER before 1990,cause of the comunist regimé.In fact,they issud his works newly with ilustrations by Kája Saudek-google that name for some pictures and youll now what I mean.

Only two rather recent normal colections have been put out here,but only thing in I couldnt find was the Derleth "colab"-"The peabodfy heritage"

And frankly,his grandson should not act so arogant.
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Not in this country im afraid.There were no publications of HPL in this country EVER before 1990,cause of the comunist regimé.In fact,they issud his works newly with ilustrations by Kája Saudek-google that name for some pictures and youll now what I mean.
Why not order it from Amazon then?

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What's "arrogant" about protecting your copyright? If he owns stories, which he does, then he has the right to expect to be paid for them. If you want to download them for free, then I guess you'll have to wait until 2033 when the copyright expires.
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Its not HIS copyright,its his long dead grandfathers.He's just doing it for the money.
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Its not HIS copyright,its his long dead grandfathers.He's just doing it for the money.
I'm afraid you're off-beam there. If the copyright was part of the estate inherited by his heirs (which it apparently was), then he has as much right to do as he sees fit with this as anyone else does with their inheritance. This is hardly arrogance; it is merely protecting his rights to property that does belong to him in law. And don't forget that a part of that may be that it enables him to help prevent corrupt versions from being promulgated on the internet, as well....
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LEGALY its his-but his grandfather wrote them.I know that the rights passed on to him,BUT he hadnt a breath in making them,so thats why I dont consider them ethicaly his.
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