Lost: Season Three

[Lucien21]

I'll watch episode 3 tonight when I get home from work.

[Brown Rat]

So, if John really did talk to the island in last night's episode, then the island must not be on the side of the Others, because the island said that he should save Echo now, and save Jack, Kate, and Sawyer later.

That reasoning presupposes a dichotomy of good versus bad, though. I suppose the island could be rooting for all of the humans but wanting to restrain certain behavior.

[TK-421]

Yes, next week's episode looks pretty intense with Ben yelling at Kate "Do you love this man?" and Sawyer tied down on the table, the needle, etc. Wow.

Is this retribution for Sun killing the one he loved (Colleen)?

They can't kill Sawyer. How can you not like Sawyer.

Good point, Brown Rat, never thought of that. But, Locke is back people...and it's great. Great to see Boone in that vision as well. Could Desmond be psychic? I mean he knew about Locke's speech before he even gave it. And Eko is safe...sigh of relief.

I find it interesting that the Others seem to be using the same tactic with jack as they did with Michael. Keep him seperated from his friends (Michael was seperated from Walt) and have a woman (Juliette) to take care of him like that one (can't remember her name but we have not seen her since) who took care of Michael and convinced him to do something terrible to be reunited with Walt. Will Jack be asked by Juliette to do something as well? Notice it's a woman he can identify with. Perhaps Juliette reminds Jack of his ex and the same thing applied to Michael.

Anyways, if the Others are the "good guys", they'e not showing it.

[dwndrgn]

This stuff so has me confused.

Desmond could be a; psychic, b; insane, c; a man from the future.

What's with the polar bears??? They'd die of heat exhaustion after the first day. They aren't built to withstand heat; cold yes (extra layers of fat, thicker skin, special type of fur...). They just don't make sense.

I'm annoyed with Locke a bit. He's the world's most giving and trusting man! He trusts everyone he meets and all of his own instincts and then when all that goes completely haywire, he continues to trust everyone he meets and continues to do his best to make everyone else comfortable at the expense of his own hard work. It just doesn't seem normal. Or am I just too darned cynical?

I'm annoyed with Sun too. And Jin. And Jack. Are they saying that we're all just plain old psycho or jerks or whatnot? The only one I can identify with so far is poor Hurley. I may not think that I would eat ranch dressing or mayo (whatever it was) straight from the jar but I wouldn't discount it depending on how hungry I was!

Is Eko going to die? Or wake up and not remember speaking to Locke? Is Locke insane too?

Sheesh. I'm so confused!

[TK-421]

No Locke is not insane. Just in tune I guess. Actually instead of being annoyed by him, I found a new respect for him last night after he: a) set aside his feelings about Charlie to help Eko and b) did not shoot that young cop Eddie in the flashback. Locke, like Sawyer, Jack, Kate, Sayid, Jin, Sun, Hurley, Michael, Walt, Boone, Shannon, Desmond, Ana Lucia, Charlie, Claire, etc. got dealt a crappy hand in life and they are now trying to "fix" things...another reason why Locke and Jack butt heads...they are both "fixers" or "farmers".

No Eko will not die. He cannot. Not yet anyways. He will be instrumental in leading the now leaderless survivors.

Actually polar bears do fairly well in the heat as their bodies are made to regulate themselves in both the winter and the summer, as long as abundant water is available for cooling off. The amount of food they eat, etc. has a great impact. I was as surprised as you probably are when I learnt this at the Toronto Zoo. So, yes they could survive there, especially in a cooler damp underground cave. But they are surely not know for their good temperament. I remember that where Jack is being held is underwater, a station called Hydra. A good place to experiement on polar bears?

[HoopyFrood]

Oooh!! I want to see this series now!
Yes, I'm in the UK, so I haven't seen it yet. Why am I spoiling it for myself by reading this, you may be wondering? Well, I'm not! Strangely, I actually like to know what's happening before hand...and let's face it, even all the information on here is probably only a tiny bit of the amount of new and shocking things that have happened!
Hurry up British TV! I NEED LOST!

[Mouse]

I'm from the uk too, I just watch it online!!
Thought Charlie was funny in the last episode, when he said to Locke about is he going to be repeatedly punching himself in the face! And 'devolve into a monkey!' He was very sarky in that ep. Loved it.
Next weeks one looks brill!

[Teresa Edgerton]

OK, so did Kate lie about loving Sawyer?

Also, who here would have believed Ben when he told Sawyer they had put in a pacemaker? I wouldn't have believed a word that came out of his mouth -- although I would have been very careful not to get agitated, on the off chance that he was telling the truth for a change.

And am I the only one who gets annoyed by the self-righteous attitudes of the Others? "We're the good guys. We aren't your enemies," they tell the survivors, then expect to be believed and treated accordingly, when everything they do (or don't do) proclaims the opposite. It never seems to occur to them that if their motives are so darn pure they might consider EXPLAINING them.

[Brown Rat]

I dunno if I believe Kate's denial. I think she does love Sawyer. But I also think she loves Jack.

Ben and the Others have been treating Kate and Sawyer very harshly, so it seemed plausible to me that Ben would have been twisted enough to put an explosive pacemaker in Sawyer's chest. I know Sawyer is an exceptionally clever conman, and he's well aware that Ben is a liar--but Ben looked nusto when he was shaking that bunny, and Sawyer had not only just been traumatized by having an enormous needle shoved into his chest, but also had been beaten up a lot lately and shocked several times (and had been eating fish biscuits--which have got to be bad for the brain). So I figure it's not so strange that he believed Ben.

[TK-421]

Yes, I would of believed him. He's done everything to show that he's not someone to mess with. Call it psychological trauma or warfare for that matter.

Also agree that the Others have not really shown us why they are the good guys. I also don't know about this seperate island thing. Wouldn't someone from the survivors like Sayid and Locke who explored the island at great lenghts have seen the other island. Could this be another mind trick or illusion to make Sawyer belive there is no escape.

[TK-421]

Jes&@# Chr*%^!!!!!!! They keep moving this thread around...

Anyways, just realized that the little thing with Desmond offering to fix Claire's roof and then using a lightening rod to attract the lightening instead of it hitting her shelter now prooves (in my little mind anyways) that he's psychic somehow. I think there is Desmond-centric episode coming when we are supposed to know more about what got him put in military prison and what happened to him in there.

[Brown Rat]

Yep, he's definitely precognitive. (Sacrifice yourself to save the island, and you, too, can tell the future. )

[manephelien]

I've seen the first two episodes of season three, and I'm afraid I'm very disappointed. The Others are such unsympathetic people that I really couldn't care less what happens to them. Maybe I'll start watching again once Sawyer, Kate and Jack escape the zoo, but until then I really couldn't care less I'm afraid.

The writers should start letting us see some solutions to the puzzles from the first two seasons before piling on more of them.

[TK-421]

To each their own I suppose.

[TK-421]

Ahhh crap, they killed Eko. He was one of my favourites.

So what is the black cloud monster? Is it the Island manifesting itself physically? Is it God? Eko had stared it down and obviously saw something very different than Locke did when he saw the beautiful light. Could the black cloud reflect ones sins/actions/past/life in either something beautiful or ugly. I don't think Eko was "a bad man" but the cloud judged him and killed him.

Jack has quite a dilema vis-à-vis Ben and his tumor. Does he kill him as Juliette is asking him to do (internal power struggle with the Others or hatred because of personal history between her and Ben?) or does he do his duty as a doctor and the hypcratic oath...

Next episode is being previewed as the most intense one this season. And it seems like the finale before the show takes a break until after X-Mas. The producers have said something about this season being in two very distinct parts.