3.01/3.02: Season premiere: "Occupation" and "Precipice"

[Brown Rat]

What do you all think of the two-hour season premiere?

It looks like we're in for a blood-filled season that asks difficult moral questions. I appreciate the show's spin on current events in the real world. And I'm interested to see how everything is going to play out. Gritty.

[Hawkshaw_245]

I liked it. Though I didn't like the TRANSITION into the New Caprica story, where they landed on the planet and BOOM! it's suddenly a year later and the Cylons found them.

But now they've started the Resistance, and each character is one his/her own story arc. I suspect there will be GREAT changes in the cast and story to come.

[ebola]

one thing I wonder is what's going to happen to Baltar post new-caprica (4 episodes..?)
His ambigious situation was one of my favourite aspects of the show... if he's a viewed as out & out bad-guy, where physically is he going to end up..

What about the 'Imaginary Baltar In Caprica-Six's Head'...

I was wondering if we'd ever see those two in the same room with both their corresponding imaginary friends

[radioactivemouse]

Interesting situation you have there, ebola...that would be an interesting meetup.

Personally, I'm glad to see Baltar's character fleshed out and finally see why he's become the whiny lapdog similar to the Baltar in the original series.

[webmouse]

Maybe because I'm on a diet I got focused on Apollo's weight changes. Bamber put on some serious pounds for the season opener and now is taking them off. Ah, dedication and hard work is the actor's sad lot at times ;-)

One small quibble -- although it may have been in the episode following -- Apollo mentions that he has lost nearly a "stone." Here's a guy in our far future with an American accent using an arrchaic British term for weight. (For those not in the know, a stone is about 13lbs or so) Lbs or metric would have been more correct, but probably went right past the writers. Oops?

[steve12553]

Originally Posted by webmouse

One small quibble -- although it may have been in the episode following -- Apollo mentions that he has lost nearly a "stone." Here's a guy in our far future with an American accent using an arrchaic British term for weight. (For those not in the know, a stone is about 13lbs or so) Lbs or metric would have been more correct, but probably went right past the writers. Oops?

Since the origin of the 12 colonies is only a legend at this point they should be able to resolve things like this at some point in the future. Maybe that was a hint. But it's worth remembering.

[Gav]

Maybe because I'm on a diet I got focused on Apollo's weight changes. Bamber put on some serious pounds for the season opener and now is taking them off. Ah, dedication and hard work is the actor's sad lot at times ;-)

Heh... I remember reading somewhere that De Niro ate tons of spaghetti and other potentially fattening food so that he could play Capone properly.

Thing is, Bamber was wearing a fat suit. In fact it was the pregnancy belly for Boomer. Though I have to admit that I like the idea of the actors scoffing pies (hmm .... tasty pies) and cakes and then trying to shift all thoe pounds while making the series.

On the archaic terms front ...

I like the mix of old and new that they constantly use in the series. Who's to say that such a civilisation wouldn't use an archaic term? They have FTL and yet they still use bakelite phones.

[Gav]

I am just catching up on the series at present. I am [cough] borrowing a friends copy.

I think the story came unstuck, in a big way, in series 2. The writers really seemed to lose the plot. Major plot arcs where ditched and new ones brought in for, as far as I could see, no discernable reason. I came pretty close to ditching the show. The only thing that kept me coming back was the sheer quality of some of the episodes. This is how adult SF should be done. However I want them to get back on the ships and get back into space. Frankly the series was far better when they were fleeing the cylon menace. The idea that a civilisation like the Cylons would consider that it would be possible to re-integrate with the humans, following the all-but complete extermination of the human species, is a very bad joke.

But what did I think of the 2hr season 3 pilot?

It was an excellent piece or writing. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I found myself saying "gosh" at the end of it. The raids on the tents were superbly handled (I thought) and the internal conflict of the NCP was quite intelligent. And Tighe... He is a hard bad man. I like him immensely. And the Deep Throat sub-plot was another piece of excellent writing. It makes me wonder if they researched the French occupation in WWII. One of my new favourite characters has to be cylon chaplain played by Dean Stockwell - he is a also a very bad man. As for Gaius Baltar... I think it's good to see them fleshing his character out and giving him a backbone (and not making him venally 2 dimensional).

I am not sure they have won me back over. I'd like to get them back in spaceships, looking for Earth, debating the big issues of; the nature of the universe and existence. There are still things I want to know about their universe which haven't been adequately explained: their gods, the god that rebelled (and is It the cylon god? And what would that mean if that were true), the cyclical nature of things and so on.

[wolfgirl]

Originally Posted by Hawkshaw_245

I liked it. Though I didn't like the TRANSITION into the New Caprica story, where they landed on the planet and BOOM! it's suddenly a year later and the Cylons found them.

But now they've started the Resistance, and each character is one his/her own story arc. I suspect there will be GREAT changes in the cast and story to come.

I have to admit, that transition left me a little off-center. And they didn't really fill us in on what went on during that year.

[Brown Rat]

Originally Posted by wolfgirl

And they didn't really fill us in on what went on during that year.

It's cool that they're filling us in on some of that year's events now, as season three progresses.

[Dave]

HELP! I forgot to record this!

Does anyone know when, and on which Sky channel it is repeated?

[Dave]

I saw this eventually and I liked it. I also didn't like the skip of a year at the time, but have now found it sits better with me.

Originally Posted by Gav

It makes me wonder if they researched the French occupation in WWII.

They have been making allegorical references to the confict in Iraq right from the first episode of the first Season. But they brought all kinds of things into this two-parter that reflected the problems of any Occupation.

Originally Posted by webmouse

One small quibble... Apollo mentions that he has lost nearly a "stone." Here's a guy in our far future with an American accent using an arrchaic British term for weight.

(There are 14lbs in a Stone.) Who says that he's "a guy in our far future" anyway? When they reached finally Earth in 'Galactica '80' it was the 1980's. They could reach Earth here and we are still in the 14th Century. That would be quite a twist! I'm not sure if the writers are British either. If they were I doubt the Police force would have been called the NCP. That is the name of the company 'National Car Parks' in the UK.

[andrew.v.spencer]

Yes stone is a British one but not an archaic one, it's still in common use for reference to people's weight.

Which reference should they have used, pounds (USA, "that man is 200 pounds") or kilos?

I suspect they reach the Earth in our far past. What worries me is why they are trying to reach the Earth; the cyclons managed to do in twelve planets, what opposition is one going to be?


Using Roman gods is also pretty archaic.

[Brown Rat]

Originally Posted by andrew.v.spencer

Using Roman gods is also pretty archaic.

Not to mention Greek gods.