About What heppened at the end of HBP - Science Fiction Fantasy Chronicles: forums

kitsune_boy389 · 2nd October 2006, 01:25 AM

Dumbledore put the charm on the Dursley's house, and now he's dead. Does that mean that the charm is broken too?

SmoothasSilk · 2nd October 2006, 12:48 PM

Hmm, possibly.

carrie221 · 3rd October 2006, 05:02 AM

That is a very good point... if he alone was responcable for keeping it up it may very well have fallen with his death

Nesacat · 3rd October 2006, 05:05 AM

I think so too. Unless the spell was able to sustain itself. I doubt if anyone else could have 'helped' Dumbledore since more of these spells seem to be pretty individual.

PTeppic · 3rd October 2006, 05:43 AM

It could have depended on Harry living there, rather than him "keeping it up". Any spell that complex could well be self-sustaining.

Barristan · 3rd October 2006, 08:53 AM

it has to be self sustaining, expiring when he no longer resides there. This is after all, what Dumbledore asked him to do, visit the Dursleys one last time.

little smaug · 3rd October 2006, 11:22 AM

Did Dumbledore himself actually put a spell on the house? I always thought that it was something natural, along the lines of Lily's sacrifice manifesting as a protection spell for Harry against Voldemort.

Adasunshine · 3rd October 2006, 02:59 PM

I think Dumbledore enhanced the protection that Lily gave to Harry. Still, I think the charm is dependent on Harry's still being able to call 4 Privet Drive his home and his returning to the house, not on Dumbledore himself.

xx

MJRevell · 5th October 2006, 05:33 PM

Yeah, I reckon the protections still there. To me, Dumbledore knew he was going to die soon, and he still told Harry to go back there. It will wear off within the next book however, when harry comes of age.

carrie221 · 5th October 2006, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJRevell

Yeah, I reckon the protections still there. To me, Dumbledore knew he was going to die soon, and he still told Harry to go back there. It will wear off within the next book however, when harry comes of age.

Is coming of age 17 or 18 in the wizarding world... if it is 17 you have a really good point

PTeppic · 6th October 2006, 05:20 AM

For some reason I thought it was 17 - but can't remember the reference....

Adasunshine · 6th October 2006, 09:12 AM

It is 17 - Dumbledore tells the Dursley's this when he goes to pick Harry up in HBP

xx

Sharkey · 11th October 2006, 12:57 PM

I think the spell will be sustaining. I know it is not exactly on the same magnitude, but even after Sirius's mother died the permanant sticking charm on the back of her portrait remained.

PadfootandProngs731 · 10th January 2007, 01:17 AM

No, the spell is not broken just because Dumbledore died. The charm he used was one of the most ancient of all magic and it doesnt stop working becasue the caster is dead. (like most charms and spells and such)

KiwiBird · 10th January 2007, 01:51 PM

dumbledore cast the spell, but harry is the one who set it in motion, therefore the spell will continue.

After all it is related to his blood and not Dumby's

2nd October 2006, 01:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
kitsune_boy389 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 46	About What heppened at the end of HBP Dumbledore put the charm on the Dursley's house, and now he's dead. Does that mean that the charm is broken too?

2nd October 2006, 12:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
SmoothasSilk Potions Mistress Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Monmouthshire Posts: 32	Re: About What heppened at the end of HBP Hmm, possibly.

3rd October 2006, 05:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
carrie221 Darkness is my friend :) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 711	Re: About What heppened at the end of HBP That is a very good point... if he alone was responcable for keeping it up it may very well have fallen with his death

3rd October 2006, 05:05 AM	#4 (permalink)
Nesacat The Cat Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Malaysia Posts: 2,626	Re: About What heppened at the end of HBP I think so too. Unless the spell was able to sustain itself. I doubt if anyone else could have 'helped' Dumbledore since more of these spells seem to be pretty individual.

3rd October 2006, 05:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,073	Re: About What heppened at the end of HBP It could have depended on Harry living there, rather than him "keeping it up". Any spell that complex could well be self-sustaining.

3rd October 2006, 08:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
Barristan Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 78	Re: About What heppened at the end of HBP it has to be self sustaining, expiring when he no longer resides there. This is after all, what Dumbledore asked him to do, visit the Dursleys one last time.

3rd October 2006, 11:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
little smaug Fire and Brimstone Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 1,343	Re: About What heppened at the end of HBP Did Dumbledore himself actually put a spell on the house? I always thought that it was something natural, along the lines of Lily's sacrifice manifesting as a protection spell for Harry against Voldemort.

3rd October 2006, 02:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
Adasunshine Daisy Toadfoot Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 931	Re: About What heppened at the end of HBP I think Dumbledore enhanced the protection that Lily gave to Harry. Still, I think the charm is dependent on Harry's still being able to call 4 Privet Drive his home and his returning to the house, not on Dumbledore himself. xx

5th October 2006, 05:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
MJRevell Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 174	Re: About What heppened at the end of HBP Yeah, I reckon the protections still there. To me, Dumbledore knew he was going to die soon, and he still told Harry to go back there. It will wear off within the next book however, when harry comes of age.

6th October 2006, 05:20 AM	#11 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,073	Re: About What heppened at the end of HBP For some reason I thought it was 17 - but can't remember the reference....

6th October 2006, 09:12 AM	#12 (permalink)
Adasunshine Daisy Toadfoot Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 931	Re: About What heppened at the end of HBP It is 17 - Dumbledore tells the Dursley's this when he goes to pick Harry up in HBP xx

11th October 2006, 12:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
Sharkey Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 22	Re: About What heppened at the end of HBP I think the spell will be sustaining. I know it is not exactly on the same magnitude, but even after Sirius's mother died the permanant sticking charm on the back of her portrait remained.

10th January 2007, 01:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
PadfootandProngs731 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 10	Re: About What heppened at the end of HBP No, the spell is not broken just because Dumbledore died. The charm he used was one of the most ancient of all magic and it doesnt stop working becasue the caster is dead. (like most charms and spells and such)

10th January 2007, 01:51 PM	#15 (permalink)
KiwiBird Nimble Tingle Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 884	Re: About What heppened at the end of HBP dumbledore cast the spell, but harry is the one who set it in motion, therefore the spell will continue. After all it is related to his blood and not Dumby's

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