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Barristan · 26th September 2006, 11:20 AM

Hi All,

I noticed an inconsistancy in the books that I thought must be a typo, but then it appeared in the films too, so think it may be significant.

In all the stories of how Harry's parents are killed and in Harry's memories of the screaming, it leads us to believe that James Potter died first, then Lily, whilst she was at Harry's cot side.

However!

When the Prior Incantatum spell is used at the end of Goblet of fire, the last people killed by the wand come out in REVERSE order.
It goes: Cedric Diggory - The Old Groundsman guy - James Potter - Lily Potter!

This leads me to the conclusion that Lily died first. This now opens up a whole can of worms.

Well, its still either a mistake, or it really has some significance.
Any ideas anyone??

Adasunshine · 26th September 2006, 11:36 AM

No, Lily came out first in the book which means she was killed last. She said to Harry as she came out something like "your father's coming, he wants to see you".

xx

little smaug · 26th September 2006, 11:57 AM

I believe that originally in GoF, it did say that James came out of the wand first. But it was just a mistake, amd was rectified in subsequent editions of the book. JK has verified that James was killed first, then Lily.

Wishful · 26th September 2006, 02:30 PM

J.K. has a note about this on her site.
She wrote it correctly, then her editor thought he was smart and he 'corrected' her, after the first print they realized their mistake, and quickly undid the 'correction'.

Barristan · 26th September 2006, 02:38 PM

Thanks for clearing that up, although i'm pretty sure it was in the incorrect order in the film. Maybe they were working from a 1st edition :P

Damn Editors, lol!

Adasunshine · 27th September 2006, 09:43 AM

If you have that very 1st edition I'd keep hold of it, will be worth a fortune!

xx

PadfootandProngs731 · 9th January 2007, 03:30 AM

No no no no, Lily is suppossed to come out last because Lily dies last, you see it went in the order thats like this: wait what?

omg you're right! well i read online from JK that in this book we will learn something very important about Lily, so keep that in mind.

KiwiBird · 9th January 2007, 08:24 AM

perhaps it was just in book 6, that harry has the same eye-colour

PadfootandProngs731 · 10th January 2007, 01:06 AM

HEY PEOPLE i checked my book and Lily came first not James like it should be, the movie did it wrong, not the book

KiwiBird · 10th January 2007, 01:49 PM

perhaps u should have read all the posts first before u made urs

26th September 2006, 11:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
Barristan Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 78	Confusing Order of Death Hi All, I noticed an inconsistancy in the books that I thought must be a typo, but then it appeared in the films too, so think it may be significant. In all the stories of how Harry's parents are killed and in Harry's memories of the screaming, it leads us to believe that James Potter died first, then Lily, whilst she was at Harry's cot side. However! When the Prior Incantatum spell is used at the end of Goblet of fire, the last people killed by the wand come out in REVERSE order. It goes: Cedric Diggory - The Old Groundsman guy - James Potter - Lily Potter! This leads me to the conclusion that Lily died first. This now opens up a whole can of worms. Well, its still either a mistake, or it really has some significance. Any ideas anyone??

26th September 2006, 11:36 AM	#2 (permalink)
Adasunshine Daisy Toadfoot Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 937	Re: Confusing Order of Death No, Lily came out first in the book which means she was killed last. She said to Harry as she came out something like "your father's coming, he wants to see you". xx

26th September 2006, 11:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
little smaug Fire and Brimstone Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 1,343	Re: Confusing Order of Death I believe that originally in GoF, it did say that James came out of the wand first. But it was just a mistake, amd was rectified in subsequent editions of the book. JK has verified that James was killed first, then Lily.

26th September 2006, 02:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
Wishful Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: EUROPE: Posts: 23	Re: Confusing Order of Death J.K. has a note about this on her site. She wrote it correctly, then her editor thought he was smart and he 'corrected' her, after the first print they realized their mistake, and quickly undid the 'correction'.

26th September 2006, 02:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
Barristan Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 78	Re: Confusing Order of Death Thanks for clearing that up, although i'm pretty sure it was in the incorrect order in the film. Maybe they were working from a 1st edition :P Damn Editors, lol!

27th September 2006, 09:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
Adasunshine Daisy Toadfoot Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 937	Re: Confusing Order of Death If you have that very 1st edition I'd keep hold of it, will be worth a fortune! xx

9th January 2007, 03:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
PadfootandProngs731 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 10	Re: Confusing Order of Death No no no no, Lily is suppossed to come out last because Lily dies last, you see it went in the order thats like this: wait what? omg you're right! well i read online from JK that in this book we will learn something very important about Lily, so keep that in mind.

9th January 2007, 08:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
KiwiBird Nimble Tingle Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 935	Re: Confusing Order of Death perhaps it was just in book 6, that harry has the same eye-colour

10th January 2007, 01:06 AM	#9 (permalink)
PadfootandProngs731 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 10	Re: Confusing Order of Death HEY PEOPLE i checked my book and *Lily* came first not James like it should be, the movie did it wrong, not the book

10th January 2007, 01:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
KiwiBird Nimble Tingle Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 935	Re: Confusing Order of Death perhaps u should have read all the posts first before u made urs

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