The Dark Knight: Nolan and Bale’s Batman 2

[F'Lessan Amused]

i just hope that in 2028-33 doesnt have a batman vs joker scenario...let alone a batman

[Connavar]

Why the need for so much hate. If you dont like Batman just ignore him no one is forcing him upon you.


Sorry to let you down Batman is one of few comics from the early days in 30's that have survived and even dominated after 70 years old. I doubt he will die off in 20 years. Every movie will only make him stronger.

[F'Lessan Amused]

i dont hate batman..am just fed up of cheesy sequels

[Connavar]

Oh i see.

I disliked many things in Batman Begins. They got 90% of Gotham and his world wrong as you can see my other post. Making Falcone brittish is like a sin IMO.

I enjoyed it only thanks to Bale. I will enjoy the second cause of the same reason.

Only good with cheesy sequals is in this case it makes my fav hero's name stronger in maintream people eyes

[Gav]

Originally Posted by F'Lessan Amused

i just hope that in 2028-33 doesnt have a batman vs joker scenario...let alone a batman

Well that wouldn't be in character for Batman himself... The Joker being Batman's arch nemisis and all.

What I hope for is that Batman does not kill the Joker. The is completely out of character for Batman and one of the reasons I don't rate Burton's visions very highly.

[Connavar]

Originally Posted by Gav

Well that wouldn't be in character for Batman himself... The Joker being Batman's arch nemisis and all.

What I hope for is that Batman does not kill the Joker. The is completely out of character for Batman and one of the reasons I don't rate Burton's visions very highly.

What did he kill Joker then?

I never was fan of those Burton movies cause Keaton was totally wrong Batman.

Batman can never kill any villain let alone the sickest of them and the one he hates most. He is at the border line of becoming like his villains with the way he works and if he kills he will be the same as them.

[F'Lessan Amused]

theres an animated film where he kills joker..but its in th batman beyond arc...so he's about to die hisself

[ScottSF]

Originally Posted by Connavar of Rigante

Oh i see.

I disliked many things in Batman Begins. They got 90% of Gotham and his world wrong as you can see my other post. Making Falcone brittish is like a sin IMO.

I enjoyed it only thanks to Bale. I will enjoy the second cause of the same reason.

Only good with cheesy sequals is in this case it makes my fav hero's name stronger in maintream people eyes

I think I missed something because I never thought of Falcone as brittish in B.Begins. I remember the line 'ya got gutts kid' which sounds more like a generic Chicago movie thug but I haven't watch in a while. Also I think with decades worth of source material perhaps there is no difinitive version. Like the 60s Batman was probably closer to the comics at the time. I'm pretty sure that in the Bob Kane comic, batman actually shot Joe Chill point blank with a gun while wearing the cowl. re: cheezy sequels, Batman begins wasn't a sequel IMO but that may be a semantic distinction. It's not even a prequel because it's completely unrelated to Burton, et al movies. I've always linked super heroes to mythic characters. Like new movie takes on Robin hood in movie and TV crop up all the time without much fuss. I hope they don't kill Joker either; you need him out there.

[F'Lessan Amused]

"cheezy sequels, Batman begins wasn't a sequel IMO"

i wasny refering BB as being a sequel...did people forget batman forever and B&R

[Culhwch]

JoBlo.com Videos: THE DARK KNIGHT Trailer #2

Second trailer. Though it's ridiculously poor quality. The official release will be Monday.

[Connavar]

Originally Posted by ScottSF

I think I missed something because I never thought of Falcone as brittish in B.Begins. I remember the line 'ya got gutts kid' which sounds more like a generic Chicago movie thug but I haven't watch in a while. Also I think with decades worth of source material perhaps there is no difinitive version. Like the 60s Batman was probably closer to the comics at the time. I'm pretty sure that in the Bob Kane comic, batman actually shot Joe Chill point blank with a gun while wearing the cowl. re: cheezy sequels, Batman begins wasn't a sequel IMO but that may be a semantic distinction. It's not even a prequel because it's completely unrelated to Burton, et al movies. I've always linked super heroes to mythic characters. Like new movie takes on Robin hood in movie and TV crop up all the time without much fuss. I hope they don't kill Joker either; you need him out there.

It was maybe one scene he didnt sound as brittish otherwise all the other scenes his lines cut through me like someone was stabbing me in the gut.....

In the comic Falcone was based on Vito Corleone look and speech wise and the best they could do in the movie was a brit actor who couldnt fake american accent let alone american italian accent.

That bothered me much more than Ra's Al Ghul being a white irish dude.

The first scene i saw Falcone being played the way they played him, i knew all my hopes for the new Batman movie series was gone.

Now if the second one has decent action scenes who shows Batman kicks ass and Bale keeps playing Bruce Wayne well im all good.

That low are my expectations.....

[ScottSF]

he never sounded brittish to me but it DID sound a bit like someine 'doing' and accent so I'm sure it could have been cast better. I just hadn't thought of it. We have already disagreed on the action. Well I could have done without the car/tank chase but I thought the fight scenes were perfect. I wouldn't have had them any other way. For me the next move is the chance to either ramp it up or drop the ball. If it flops we can always go back to reading.

[Connavar]

Originally Posted by ScottSF

he never sounded brittish to me but it DID sound a bit like someine 'doing' and accent so I'm sure it could have been cast better. I just hadn't thought of it. We have already disagreed on the action. Well I could have done without the car/tank chase but I thought the fight scenes were perfect. I wouldn't have had them any other way. For me the next move is the chance to either ramp it up or drop the ball. If it flops we can always go back to reading.

It wont flop no matter how bad it is. The name of Batman will carry it. Alot of mainstream fans and comic fans like Batman too much for it to flop.


I didnt like either the tank chase, i was thinking this is Batman he is more like Spidey he swings from building to building with his lines and techs.

[ScottSF]

Very happy with the film. Maybe doesn't exactly live up to the hype but gets pretty close.

I liked it only slightly fractionatescimally less than Batman Begins. I just really like Batman screen time and he was a bit diluted in the mix and spending a lot of time putting out fires. But what a mix it was. Part of the appeal about Batman is him taking control of his demons and Joker acting as a true nemesis works to take that control away. I was so frustrated in the interrogation scene because, well, you can’t scare Joker because he just doesn’t care. It’s like trying to punch a ghost! If I had to think of an origin story that made sense for this joker then he’s an ex CIA (master infiltrator) guy who lost everything. I think I could keep typing infinitely because I’m still watching in my head. Ooooh I just saw the scene where Batman says “I’m counting on it.” You all know the one. . .

So far other people I have heard from have like it much more than I did and I really really liked it.