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Old 30th August 2006, 05:53 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Sorry, I didn't mean to step on any toes, its just that condemation of homosexuals and incestous people come from the same source, the Bible, and if we ingnore one mandate, why not ignore the other? Because both cases can be made from a personal freedom standpoint.
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Actually the problem with incest that it involves a too small gene pool therefore hereditary conditions which would off been cancelled out by the "new" genes aren't. I wasn't aware it was condemned in the bible *shrugs*.
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Old 30th August 2006, 05:57 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Sorry, I didn't mean to step on any toes, its just that condemation of homosexuals and incestous people come from the same source, the Bible
Someone should tell the Mormons who still practice it.
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Old 30th August 2006, 06:05 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Old 30th August 2006, 06:11 PM   #19 (permalink)
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*Ahem* I'm Mormon and I'm not homosexual (I'm not even bi curious) nor do I practice incest. Nor does anyone I know...I think you might be confused with the polygamy (which isn't practiced anymore and hasn't since the 1800s).
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Old 30th August 2006, 06:23 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Abraham's wife Sara was also his half sister. I don't think the bible condemned it too much.
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Old 30th August 2006, 09:43 PM   #21 (permalink)
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My point wasn't that Luke and Liea are Christians, but that our very big taboo really doesn't fit in a galaxy far far away. So let me say it's a primative earth taboo, that in our culture is very important to maintain. I know I'm sounding like I wanna screw my sis or something, I don't, but honestly I can't think of a reason to ban incest if the problem of defective offspring is taken care of.

And no, for the record, homosexuality and incest are not apples and oranges. They are the same thing: sex which does not produce healthy offspring and whether the Bible is the work of God or man, that's the purpose behind the ban.

And furthermore, Christians outnumber Muslims 2 to 1. 2.2 billion to 1.1 billion.
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Old 30th August 2006, 10:09 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Konig15 will have to agree to disagree on all issues...

But lets get back to the subject at hand, Leia and Luke wouldn't hook up because of the beliefs of the Jedi, regardless of the fact that there might be some kind of love interest there. Luke cant' have his cake and eat it too!
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Old 30th August 2006, 10:16 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Incest can play havoc with the family unit, introducing rivalries and other dysfunctions. It also crosses the kind of boundaries that children need in order to establish themselves as autonomous individuals.

So the ban on incest is not a "primitive earth taboo" and Luke, Leia, and the rest being recognizably human, it wouldn't be healthy or advisable.
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Old 30th August 2006, 10:40 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Alia, how can you disagree with me on the numbers of Christians and Muslims. You can look that up on Wiki for crying out loud.

Besides, OK, let's drop the incest thing, we'll agree to disagree. But let me say I was talking about brother/sister relationships between concenting adults, not parent/child relationships. That's really really horrible. The whole premise of the prequels was exactly AGAINST the Jedi Code of No Attachments. We all know Anakin was angry and power hungry, the only thing that kept him from the dark side as long as he did was Padme, and it is only through a son's love is he saved.

Besides, while I haven't read all the EU books, as far as I know Luke has never apologized or even blushed about allowing relationships. Asceticism is blantantly unhealthy, and despite the risks, people need to have attachments to aviod the dark side.
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Old 30th August 2006, 10:56 PM   #25 (permalink)
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1st in EU Luke does marry and does have a child so the whole against relationships thing doesn't exist in the new jedi order.

2nd historically in royal and upper class families in the ancient world there was a lot of incest and it was considered normal, in the more recent past first cousins married quite commonly and it is legal in a few states in the US to marry your first cousin. Leia was raised as a princess so she may not have seen a problem with this but it all depends. Let me also say I do not believe incest to be right but on the issue of sex anything that two consenting adults chose to engage in that does not harm another person should be their business.

3rd I do not believe there was any romantic interest between Luke and Leia, Leia and Han were obviously interested in each other from the moment that they met so... and in the EU they marry and have children
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I don't know how religion got so involved in this disscussion but in reality it has nothing to do with this work of fiction. As for Anikin and Padme It was Anikins feelings for Padme that was a large step towards the dark side, the Jedi avoided love because strong emotions lead to the dark side hence why when Luke went to rescue his friends his emotions nearly lead him to the dark side
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Old 30th August 2006, 11:58 PM   #27 (permalink)
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according to Lucas, he always planned it to be a story about twins. I don't think it was an after thought.

Leah was an affectionate person, only one of the kisses looked slightly sexual and that was after luke almost died on Hoth. She was probably just glad he wasn't dead and emotional about it.
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And furthermore, Christians outnumber Muslims 2 to 1. 2.2 billion to 1.1 billion.
I'm afraid by that logic, Konig, we would have to say that China should rule the world because it has the largest population of any nation.

And with that, a gentle reminder that we do not, as a practice argue about religion or from religion, here on Chronicles.
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Old 31st August 2006, 05:57 AM   #29 (permalink)
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… we do not, as a practice argue about religion or from religion, here on Chronicles.
Damn straight. If you're looking for that kind of action, head on over to the QuiltingForum. It's hot and heavy over there.
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Old 31st August 2006, 04:46 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Homosexuality really has nothing to do with Star Wars - let's get back on topic on keep political agendas out of this, thank you.
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