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Old 23rd August 2006, 01:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Matt Damon as the young James T. Kirk?

I had heard about this a while ago and it now seems less likely to happen (see link)

Paste this in and add the usual net stuff with the three w's in front of it since I dont have enough posts for a real link.

moono.com/news/news02481.html

What do fans think? Would he be a good JTK?
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Old 23rd August 2006, 04:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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NO, NO, NO

You cannot have another actor play JTK. William Shatner is kirk and will always be kirk. Sorry just can't see it and will never be able to see it.

Not that it will stop me from seeing the movie if it comes out and buying it. I will just talk about the injustice of it and how wrong it is.
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Old 23rd August 2006, 04:10 AM   #3 (permalink)
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how bout them apples Khan????
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Old 23rd August 2006, 09:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Come on, Star Trek - look forwards and be visionary - not looking back all the time.
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Old 23rd August 2006, 09:32 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Matt Damon as the young James T. Kirk?

I agree with Brian, they need someting new and refreshing. What about a follow up on Whesley and the Traveller with Q? Something deep and profound.

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Old 23rd August 2006, 09:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Matt Damon as the young James T. Kirk?

Nope, don;t think it would work. And the permise that Kirk and Spock were at the academy together goes against all the "rules" previously established in the Star Trek Universe. What are they going to do ... go back and re-write "The Cage" so that Spock never served with Pike?

It's nearly as bad as cutting the smoking out of Tom and Jerry

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Old 23rd August 2006, 01:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Matt Damon as the young James T. Kirk?

I totally disagree.

How much more advanced can the Trek universe possibly get? Ive grown so tired of seeing the holograph chamber and the transporter used to solve 75% of all their problems. Throw in the overused space-time continuum theme and bleah....
The only thing left is for them to actually bring Einstein back from the dead from a strand of hair, develop god-like psionic powers that allow them to teleport at will and phase through time and become beings of pure light.

I want to see more character development, which can occur irregardless of the stardate. Besides which, what would be common technology for a young Kirk & Spock would be forward looking for us.

Im not crazy about a young Kirk & Spock theme, but Im willing to give it a chance and see what they can do with it.

You want real progress? Wrest the franchise from the death-grip the current contributors have had on it for 20 years and plop it into someone elses lap.
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Old 23rd August 2006, 03:42 PM   #8 (permalink)
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You want real progress? Wrest the franchise from the death-grip the current contributors have had on it for 20 years and plop it into someone elses lap.
I agree ... give it to Rockne S. O'Bannon!!
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Old 23rd August 2006, 04:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Matt Damon as the young James T. Kirk?

I understand the reluctance to cast anyone other than Shatner in the role of Kirk, but if this is really about a time when Kirk was a young man then someone else must be chosen to play the role. No amount of makeup and movie magic will allow Shatner to play a 20 year old. In fact, Damon may be too old to play an academy cadet.

We have had someone other than Nimoy play a young Spock after his rebirth on Genesis. And why couldn't Spock and Kirk be at the academy together, graduate and have Spock serve on the Enterprise and Kirk serve on another ship. Kirk didn't come out of the academy and become captain of the Entrerprise on his first assignment. That is what a new movie would be about.
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And why couldn't Spock and Kirk be at the academy together.
Done by somebody a lot more obsessed than me... I'll admit there might be some scope for overlap in storylines, but according to the timeline, they were not at academy at the same time...

2240 Spock enters Academy 2249 Spock graduates and enters Starfleet 2250 Kirk enters Academy 2252 Spock transfers to Enterprise under captain Pike 2254 Kirk graduates Academy
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The problem IMO is really that Star Trek are left looking at their feet - I agree - the franchise desperately needs new blood. I mean, seriously, what is looking into the past of Trek really going to achieve? It's milking the cash cow, but the udders are ulcerated.
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Old 25th August 2006, 01:48 AM   #12 (permalink)
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What about doing something between the end of Enterprise and the beginning of the orginal series? That way they could develop their own characters.
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The problem IMO is really that Star Trek are left looking at their feet - I agree - the franchise desperately needs new blood. I mean, seriously, what is looking into the past of Trek really going to achieve? It's milking the cash cow, but the udders are ulcerated.
Indeed, I just don't see the point of doing prequals beyond milking certain character popularity as its always going to limate creativity. If they want to do another series why not fast forward another few decades as they did in TNG and introduce a new set of races and a different situation for starfleet?
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Old 30th August 2006, 10:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I once hear that Jodi Foster was going to play Boba Fett in the new Star Wars movies so I will take it with a grain of salt.

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. If they want to do another series why not fast forward another few decades as they did in TNG and introduce a new set of races and a different situation for starfleet?
Yeah, or how about a post-federation future after a economic or social collapse after a golden age. And ships have to navigate through hyperspace minefields so many are afraid to travel and many different earth colonies are cut off from each other, and the solar system is in civil war. And the Vulcans have just disappeard for some unknown reason. Maybe humanity crossed some line and ticked off a Q like race and all these things were done to send humans back to a darker age but a group of scavengers fly around in a Federation/Romulan Hybrid and some human colonies would die out if it weren't for hand outs from the prosperous klingon empire. This is just off the top of my head but I think "bold" ideas can revive star trek so many new "bold" writer's can "boldly" take things in a "bold" new direction.
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Yeah, or how about a post-federation future after a economic or social collapse after a golden age. And ships have to navigate through hyperspace minefields so many are afraid to travel and many different earth colonies are cut off from each other, and the solar system is in civil war. And the Vulcans have just disappeard for some unknown reason. Maybe humanity crossed some line and ticked off a Q like race and all these things were done to send humans back to a darker age but a group of scavengers fly around in a Federation/Romulan Hybrid and some human colonies would die out if it weren't for hand outs from the prosperous klingon empire. This is just off the top of my head but I think "bold" ideas can revive star trek so many new "bold" writer's can "boldly" take things in a "bold" new direction.
A shame they are so unwilling to take the risk of pushing any new ideas really as the popularity of the Star Trek name could allow someone to do something really creative that it would otherwise be hard to get backing for. You could argue they had their fingars burnt by DS9 a little but at least that was able to keep enough of a fanbase to go the full 7 seasons unlike Enterprise.
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