Troy Who would you be?

[Seth God Of Chaos]

I started this thread to ask a question.
1 Which hero would you be at troy?
2 Who would you not want to be at troy?
3 Did you like the movie?
4 Who caused troy?

1 Achilles
2 Agamemnon
3 yes
4 Paris

[polymorphikos]

1) Oddyseus. He was crafty, won the battle, had many cool (if heart-rending) adventures, spent lengthy periods with to divine seductresses and still got home alright and got to play the hero for his wife and live a decent life.

2) Patroklus. Achilles is a jerk to him, he dies, and not only does he not wear the pants in the relationship, but he is portrayed very dubiously in the film.

3) I didn't like the movie. it had a few bright points, but I mostly found it stupid, pompous, badly-scripted, unremarkably-shot, ludicrously-inaccurate (to the point where I almost yelled at the screen, and had to be calmed by my dad who saw it with me), and very, very dull whenever something other than Hector or a battle was on-screen. I will defend Dian(a?) Kruger as being quite attractive, despite what everyone said. Not attractive enough to launch a thousand ships but meh.

4) If I answer this one, everyone'll cheat. Let's just say it was a certain someone who was a sheperd at some point, and may or may not have judged a beauty-pagent.

[knivesout]

1. Odysseus. Come on!

[Rane Longfox]

1. Phoenix - when I read "Illium" this guy sounded so cool though I don't think he was in the film...
2. Patroclus
3. yup
4. He started it! he did! not me! (in other words, dunno)

[I, Brian]

I still haven't seen it!!

[**Elentari**]

1. Kassandra (but maybe just because i just read "The Firebrand")
2. Menelaus
3. not really. it was rather boring and kinda felt wrong. i think they could do much much better with it.
4. paris

[Kassad]

1-Paris, I have a gift for creating sh*tty situations
2-Paris: this is quite a burden to bear
3-No the movie was catastophic IMHO: there's no magic anymore, I mean Achilles is supposed to be invincible but we can't check that 'cause he never ever receives a hit + it seems he doesn't dies of his wound in the heel.
Not to mention that the 10 years long siege turns into a 1 week blitzkrieg
4-Paris -ok I'm sorry.

[Rane Longfox]

difficult to accurately portray a 10 year siege in a 3 hour film

[Kassad]

hmm I not saying a ten years long movie was needed but ten years (moreover ten years of war) tend to change people a bit. A bit of make up, some indications like 'x years later', shows of lassitude and different kind of weather could have helped.

[Seth God Of Chaos]

Good choices everyone.

[polymorphikos]

I don't know about Achilles and Agamemnon. The first is a moody jerk who causes no end of trouble and then gets the chop, and the second wasn't really any different, except that he occasionally conceded the point. The whole Elektra, Orestes thingummy isn't really any worse than the arrow-poking.

Now that I've insulted your personal opinion, my work here is done. Go to bed.

[Seth God Of Chaos]

The only reason i like achilles is because he died with honour. And at least he didnt sacrifice his own daughter.

[Kassad]

Well Seth, I don't see where's the honour for an almost immortal beein in fighting mortals
Anyway, I'm currently reading Virgilius' Aeneid and it rocks. It doesn't highlights when Achilles dies in the mythology but suggest the chronology in the movies is incorrect. Anyone remembers the Iliad well enough to clarify that?

[Blue Mythril]

1. I must say, Odysseus owns you all. Achilles, bah, don't get me started. We're talking about a man who finally fell in love with a great woman as he killed her...
2. paris, cos he was a pretty boy coward who made a predictable choice between three goddesses and then legged it.
3. Havn't seen it yet.
4. Well, you could argue in favour of the snivelling little pretty boy, or you could argue in favour of Aphrodite, OR whoever suggested the damn Judgement in the first place (drawing a mental blank).

[polymorphikos]

Eris must die!