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baterista9 · 29th May 2004, 07:21 PM

*surfaces from ASciFi lurkdom*

Hi, Gary, Allan, the two Rowans, and other friends old and new!

Gary, I'm Gilder in San Antonio, TX, USA, publicity/guest coordinator for ChimaeraCon as well as a Gatecon veteran (this year will be three in a row). We've corresponded a couple of times recently. I look forward to meeting you in Vancouver in July!

Allan G., thanks for saying that this thread is for ALL cons. How are Carmen, Bel, and the boys?

Glad Gary surfaced. I've been virtually holding my tongue on other boards over the recent issues. But Gary and Allan have confirmed what I suspected from my correspondence with SG-1's LA publicist and from the fact that Bill Vigars is no longer the on-set publicist.

That is, that MGM recognizes SG-1's growing popularity and has decided to support the franchise with merchandising and licensing...for which many fans have begged over the two years I've been around.

There's room for all of us, if we'll cooperate and share what info we can.

Thanks to Rowan Green for providing the link to this discussion in the GateGoers Yahoo Group.

Gilder:circle:

baterista9 · 29th May 2004, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Texane
here I am, a moderator, and I've never been to a Con.

Texane,

Remind me where in Texas, please? Maybe we can meet for a con. I'm headed to Trek Expo in Tulsa in a couple of weeks.

Gilder

Draco · 30th May 2004, 03:31 AM

Why have there not been any Creation cons in Canada since I believe the 1990's? East Coast or West Coast?

I can't afford you events in the US due to the money charged for Gold Passes etc. Due to the exchange rate I'd have to take out a loan just to attend.

Texane · 30th May 2004, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by baterista9

Texane,

Remind me where in Texas, please? Maybe we can meet for a con. I'm headed to Trek Expo in Tulsa in a couple of weeks.

Gilder

I'm in Dallas, but it would be easy for me to get to Austin or Houston.

That would be great!!!:rolly2:

Rowan Green · 30th May 2004, 07:54 PM

Hi Gary, I'm pm'ing you too!

Gary Berman · 2nd June 2004, 09:35 PM

Quote from Rowan Green:
I'd rather not have licenses because it seems all they do is cause trouble.

Hi, Rowan:

I think we all have to remember that the series and films we love as fans are produced as businesses and the studios that put up the money, as well as the creative folks and actors that work on them, are doing this as a business/job.

Therefore, to me, it seems that they would deserve income if someone is selling products with their images, logos, artwork. So, when a licensee does a product they have to send a percentage of the sales to the studio which then goes back to the talent behind the show as well. Also, as licensed goods have to be approved and some actors have approval rights, buyers know that they are getting things that have the okay from the people involved in the show.

When it comes to websites and ventures that are not "businesses" and are fan driven; well, our company has been probably the number one advocate of telling the studios we work with to have a hands-off policy on these things. Can't be too specific here, obviously, but I can say that we've been instrumental in many cases over the years in saving fan websites in particular a lot of grief.

Take care,
Gary

Gary Berman · 2nd June 2004, 09:44 PM

Hi, Draco:

We had some of our most fun events in Canada over the years, but they were run when Star Trek was at its peak of popularity.

The fact is that the guests have not lowered their fees for appearances based on their smaller "draws" and running in many cities (not just Canadian) is economically not feasible at the moment, at least with Star Trek.

We're hopeful that this will change, or other opportunities and conventions around different themes will present themselves for us to be back in Canada. In the meantime, there are lots of other promoters running events there as well.

Thanks for the inquiry.
Gary

Draco · 2nd June 2004, 11:26 PM

Thanks for the repy...

The only problem is the *only* Stargate con in Canada is Gatecon - which is the best by the way.. :-)

Toronto Trek has SG guests this year and it's the first one in Toronto to do that.

I can't afford to travel to England and the States for cons as that's where most of the SG guests appear. It's very frustrating as some of my friends can't afford to travel to Vancouver for a con either.

I'd just like to see a few SG guests in my own city for a change.

Patti

skydiver · 4th June 2004, 01:50 PM

I'd just like to see a few SG guests in my own city for a change.

~~~

LOL

wouldn't we all. Actually, within a thousand miles would be nice.

That's the disadvantage of living in the midwest, things like this just do not happen here. Maybe chicago...but that's about 10+ hours of driving.

Iwould love to go to some, but they're so far away that airfare becomes a factor, and add hotels to that and food, it's easy for just the basics to rack up 500+ very quickly, and then know that autographs and pictures have a fee, plus anything else....it isn't unreasonable for an average con trip to be a thousand dollars....and not something the average person can just do on a whim. (I know i could slap it on a credit card, but i refuse to just put frivilous stuff like this on a credit card and go into debt for it)

Unless you're fortunate enough to live in the UK or a big city (like out in california), cons quickly become a 'once a year' trip to most folks. And if I can only have one trip a year, I'm going to make it a good one and go where I personally feel more comfortable, where my friends go and where i know i will have a good time rather than risk it on an unknown.

You folks that live in the bigger cities really do have some advantages and I downright envy the folks over in the UK. Over there, the cons seem to be less about making money and more about the interaction, and i'm the kind of fan that likes the interaction.

Rowan Green · 5th June 2004, 10:24 AM

Just a quick note: my hard drive failed on Wednesday, and I'm now back on with a 'new' second-hand computer. Absolute chaos as I'm trying to recover as much as I can, and I have a very busy few days with a convention and other stuff going on as well! I'll try and get back to answer things properly, but for now, I don't have access to my old email accounts yet, so if anyone's written privately, give me a few days!

skydiver · 5th June 2004, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rowan Green
Just a quick note: my hard drive failed on Wednesday, and I'm now back on with a 'new' second-hand computer. Absolute chaos as I'm trying to recover as much as I can, and I have a very busy few days with a convention and other stuff going on as well! I'll try and get back to answer things properly, but for now, I don't have access to my old email accounts yet, so if anyone's written privately, give me a few days!

ick, hate when that happens. good luck rowan

philoSCIFI · 8th June 2004, 01:25 AM

I know there are already three Stargate Creation Cons that will be in the US, which I am extremely greatful for; however, I was wondering if there was any chance of there being any more for 2004.

Texane · 8th June 2004, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by philoSCIFI
I know there are already three Stargate Creation Cons that will be in the US, which I am extremely greatful for; however, I was wondering if there was any chance of there being any more for 2004.

particularly as Dallas (final contender for the Olympics) and Houston (2004 Super Bowl), Texas have millions of people living in the official area of the cities alone (Irving, Texas/Dallas Cowboys is not officially part of the City of Dallas). Outside of the "official," i.e. taxable area of both of these major cities, but in easy driving distance (or Southwest Airlines; local and very popular airline, very reasonable costs) is Clearlake/NASA (think International Space Station), Katy, Jersey Village, Conroe, Huntsville (Sam Houston State University), Waco (Baylor University), The Woodlands, Sugarland (see ice skaters, Olympics), Plano, Euless, Bedford, Fort Worth (1.4 million people in Tarrant County alone), Waxahachie, Weatherford, San Antonio (San Antonio Spurs, 13 colleges and universities), Arlington, Frisco, Mesquite (yes; can you believe that name?), Burleson, Grapevine (one of the largest shopping centers in the USA), Cleburne (do not get put in jail there; known as "The Fortress"), Denton (37,000 college students at North Texas State University), Austin (52,000 students at the University of Texas) Wichita Falls, Decatur, Rockwall, Richardson, College Station (49,000 students at Texas A&M), Canton, to name a few . . . with over 40 universities, colleges and junior colleges filled with kids and their parents' money and credit cards . . .

in other words, more millions of people . . .

you could sell a lot of merchandise here . . .

Come visit the Lone Star State.

Highlander II · 8th June 2004, 04:05 PM

LOL!

Texanne - you are too funny!

However, I agree - Texas is lovely -- been to Dallas once - liked it there -- nothing like 70-ish degrees at the end of November...

JacksLover · 8th June 2004, 08:03 PM

I have been to Texas once. My friend was living in Galveston.

We went to Houston one day and saw Johnson Space Center. That was very interesting especially mission control.

29th May 2004, 07:21 PM	#46 (permalink)
baterista9 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 10	Small world... surfaces from ASciFi lurkdom Hi, Gary, Allan, the two Rowans, and other friends old and new! Gary, I'm Gilder in San Antonio, TX, USA, publicity/guest coordinator for ChimaeraCon as well as a Gatecon veteran (this year will be three in a row). We've corresponded a couple of times recently. I look forward to meeting you in Vancouver in July! Allan G., thanks for saying that this thread is for ALL cons. How are Carmen, Bel, and the boys? Glad Gary surfaced. I've been virtually holding my tongue on other boards over the recent issues. But Gary and Allan have confirmed what I suspected from my correspondence with SG-1's LA publicist and from the fact that Bill Vigars is no longer the on-set publicist. That is, that MGM recognizes SG-1's growing popularity and has decided to support the franchise with merchandising and licensing...for which many fans have begged over the two years I've been around. There's room for all of us, if we'll cooperate and share what info we can. Thanks to Rowan Green for providing the link to this discussion in the GateGoers Yahoo Group. Gilder:circle:

30th May 2004, 03:31 AM	#48 (permalink)
Draco Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Toronto Posts: 3	Creation in Canada Why have there not been any Creation cons in Canada since I believe the 1990's? East Coast or West Coast? I can't afford you events in the US due to the money charged for Gold Passes etc. Due to the exchange rate I'd have to take out a loan just to attend.

2nd June 2004, 09:35 PM	#51 (permalink)
Gary Berman Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 12	RESPONSE TO ROWAN GREEN Quote from Rowan Green: I'd rather not have licenses because it seems all they do is cause trouble. Hi, Rowan: I think we all have to remember that the series and films we love as fans are produced as businesses and the studios that put up the money, as well as the creative folks and actors that work on them, are doing this as a business/job. Therefore, to me, it seems that they would deserve income if someone is selling products with their images, logos, artwork. So, when a licensee does a product they have to send a percentage of the sales to the studio which then goes back to the talent behind the show as well. Also, as licensed goods have to be approved and some actors have approval rights, buyers know that they are getting things that have the okay from the people involved in the show. When it comes to websites and ventures that are not "businesses" and are fan driven; well, our company has been probably the number one advocate of telling the studios we work with to have a hands-off policy on these things. Can't be too specific here, obviously, but I can say that we've been instrumental in many cases over the years in saving fan websites in particular a lot of grief. Take care, Gary

2nd June 2004, 09:44 PM	#52 (permalink)
Gary Berman Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 12	Reply to Draco: Creation Events in Canada Hi, Draco: We had some of our most fun events in Canada over the years, but they were run when Star Trek was at its peak of popularity. The fact is that the guests have not lowered their fees for appearances based on their smaller "draws" and running in many cities (not just Canadian) is economically not feasible at the moment, at least with Star Trek. We're hopeful that this will change, or other opportunities and conventions around different themes will present themselves for us to be back in Canada. In the meantime, there are lots of other promoters running events there as well. Thanks for the inquiry. Gary

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30th May 2004, 07:54 PM	#50 (permalink)
Rowan Green Advanced Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 129	Hi Gary, I'm pm'ing you too!

2nd June 2004, 11:26 PM	#53 (permalink)
Draco Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Toronto Posts: 3	Thanks for the repy... The only problem is the only Stargate con in Canada is Gatecon - which is the best by the way.. :-) Toronto Trek has SG guests this year and it's the first one in Toronto to do that. I can't afford to travel to England and the States for cons as that's where most of the SG guests appear. It's very frustrating as some of my friends can't afford to travel to Vancouver for a con either. I'd just like to see a few SG guests in my own city for a change. Patti

4th June 2004, 01:50 PM	#54 (permalink)
skydiver Trivia Goddess Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: topeka, ks, usa- 7 1/2 hours due east of Cheyenne Mountain Posts: 2,856	I'd just like to see a few SG guests in my own city for a change. ~~~ LOL wouldn't we all. Actually, within a thousand miles would be nice. That's the disadvantage of living in the midwest, things like this just do not happen here. Maybe chicago...but that's about 10+ hours of driving. Iwould love to go to some, but they're so far away that airfare becomes a factor, and add hotels to that and food, it's easy for just the basics to rack up 500+ very quickly, and then know that autographs and pictures have a fee, plus anything else....it isn't unreasonable for an average con trip to be a thousand dollars....and not something the average person can just do on a whim. (I know i could slap it on a credit card, but i refuse to just put frivilous stuff like this on a credit card and go into debt for it) Unless you're fortunate enough to live in the UK or a big city (like out in california), cons quickly become a 'once a year' trip to most folks. And if I can only have one trip a year, I'm going to make it a good one and go where I personally feel more comfortable, where my friends go and where i know i will have a good time rather than risk it on an unknown. You folks that live in the bigger cities really do have some advantages and I downright envy the folks over in the UK. Over there, the cons seem to be less about making money and more about the interaction, and i'm the kind of fan that likes the interaction.

5th June 2004, 10:24 AM	#55 (permalink)
Rowan Green Advanced Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 129	Just a quick note: my hard drive failed on Wednesday, and I'm now back on with a 'new' second-hand computer. Absolute chaos as I'm trying to recover as much as I can, and I have a very busy few days with a convention and other stuff going on as well! I'll try and get back to answer things properly, but for now, I don't have access to my old email accounts yet, so if anyone's written privately, give me a few days!

8th June 2004, 01:25 AM	#57 (permalink)
philoSCIFI Questarian Gaterider P3g Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 1,029	I know there are already three Stargate Creation Cons that will be in the US, which I am extremely greatful for; however, I was wondering if there was any chance of there being any more for 2004.

8th June 2004, 04:05 PM	#59 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,446	LOL! Texanne - you are too funny! However, I agree - Texas is lovely -- been to Dallas once - liked it there -- nothing like 70-ish degrees at the end of November...

8th June 2004, 08:03 PM	#60 (permalink)
JacksLover Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 91	I have been to Texas once. My friend was living in Galveston. We went to Houston one day and saw Johnson Space Center. That was very interesting especially mission control.