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Superman_16 · 30th December 2003, 02:19 PM

Hey every1!

Im quite new to Ascifi.com

I think that a discussion on comparing Star Wars to LOTR wud be very interesting.

So wat does everybody think about which one is better? Both LOTR and Star Wars have been such great phenomenons, so how wud they do against each other in battle...huw wud come out as champion???

Talk 2 u all later

...

and please post back soon

Farewell!

ray gower · 31st December 2003, 01:49 AM

Not a very fair question!

The LOTR and Star Wars stories are as different to each other as the two sets of Star Wars films are to each other.

The only thing they share is that the early SW and LOTR were the most expensive films ever produced (at the time), big box office hits (for different audiences) and pushed the SFX budgets.

Early Star Wars was most definitely a kid's action/adventure that worked for adults, whilst LOTR is a more mature adventure that works for kids.

Sadly, I don't think the newer SW films manage that breadth of appeal. So they loose.

You can't compare the technologies or races either.

Fairer would be to compare the two sets of SW I think?

Superman_16 · 31st December 2003, 06:28 PM

Hi ray gower!

i dont think that u understand wat i mean. SW vs LOTR is not really that much about how similar they are, the only similarity the 2 successes need is that theyre both simply amazing and have a scifi or fantasy theme. its just a very simple question, its about which of the 2 is better at wat it does and gives. Obviously i kno that theyre very different from each other, u dont have 2 compare them in wat theyre both about.
...its just, SIMPLY, which is the better scifi-fantasy of the 2, in wat they offer 4 themselves?

And actually i do think that both films have some similarities

Evolution · 31st December 2003, 06:32 PM

I think Ray is right. The two are so different, star wars would be better off battling it out with star trek. LOTR is in a completely different class.

I mean I love both star wars and LOTR. Star wars is a great sci-fi action film series and brilliant when you want to just sit down and watch a film that's not to serious. It has fantastic battles and race scenes, and some of the best creatures made.

LOTR on the other hand has a very complex back story, is acted with perfection has state of the act effects and sort of sucks you into the Tolkien world (you really did feel for Frodo and the other members of the fellowship).

Okay...if these two great film series where to meet in battle then LOTR would annihilate Star wars.

The Fellowship of the Ring was BRILLIANT, The Two Towers was even Better, but, The Return of the King is without doubt the greatest film ever made. The LOTR trilogy RULES!

roadster · 31st December 2003, 06:49 PM

It's not even close. LOTR is a literary masterpiece while Star Wars, although excellent for what it is, is just movie fiction. You can't go to college and get a degree with SW but you can with Tolkien.

Status · 31st December 2003, 07:46 PM

I'll have to agree with Evolution and roadster

I was around when Star Wars first came out (one of the few I actually saw at the cinema) and it was a very good story and film in it's day. However, LOTR tells a much better and eaiser paced story with the ability to pull you in and make you part of it. I've only seen the first 2 so far, but look forward to seeing The Return of the King as soon as it comes out on VHS

ray gower · 1st January 2004, 12:11 AM

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star wars would be better off battling it out with star trek

Done the Star Wars vs Star Trek here- http://www.ascifi.com/forums/showthr...threadid=11220

But Battlestar Galactica, now that could be interesting?

Dave · 1st January 2004, 05:20 PM

Actually, I think there are some similarities:

Both tell the story of the journey of the reluctant hero. If you include the Hobbit, then both sagas tell the story over two generations of one family. Both have evil villains seduced by the power of the dark side of the magic/Force in Saruman and Vader. But neither Sauron nor the Emperor can rely on magic/the Force alone to defeat their enemies and need conventional armies.

Saruman versus Count Dooku might be an interesting match.

I'm not sure how the Uruk-hai versus Clone Army would turn out, but I'm sure that Middle Earth has no defence against a Death Star.

sarah2040 · 15th January 2004, 05:57 PM

Both LOTR and SW are brilliant in their own right but as others have said they're both very different. Saying that I would have to say LOTR is much better, it has so much more depth to it and you feel involved with the character's stuggles in a way you never did with SW.

I don't know if anyone has read it but there's an article on The Onion about these two which isn't exactly what this discussion is about but I found it very funny.

Nation's Love Affair with LOTR Threatening it's Relationship with SW

captaincarter · 16th January 2004, 04:18 PM

Thats easy, Lotr wins by a landslide, star wars are not as good, the original ones are better then the new ones, but Lotr beats um all.

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31st December 2003, 01:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
ray gower Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Gwynedd Posts: 3,579	Not a very fair question! The LOTR and Star Wars stories are as different to each other as the two sets of Star Wars films are to each other. The only thing they share is that the early SW and LOTR were the most expensive films ever produced (at the time), big box office hits (for different audiences) and pushed the SFX budgets. Early Star Wars was most definitely a kid's action/adventure that worked for adults, whilst LOTR is a more mature adventure that works for kids. Sadly, I don't think the newer SW films manage that breadth of appeal. So they loose. You can't compare the technologies or races either. Fairer would be to compare the two sets of SW I think?

31st December 2003, 06:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
Superman_16 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Nottingham, England, UK Posts: 24	Hi ray gower! i dont think that u understand wat i mean. SW vs LOTR is not really that much about how similar they are, the only similarity the 2 successes need is that theyre both simply amazing and have a scifi or fantasy theme. its just a very simple question, its about which of the 2 is better at wat it does and gives. Obviously i kno that theyre very different from each other, u dont have 2 compare them in wat theyre both about. ...its just, SIMPLY, which is the better scifi-fantasy of the 2, in wat they offer 4 themselves? And actually i do think that both films have some similarities

31st December 2003, 06:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
Evolution Until The End Of Time Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,084	I think Ray is right. The two are so different, star wars would be better off battling it out with star trek. LOTR is in a completely different class. I mean I love both star wars and LOTR. Star wars is a great sci-fi action film series and brilliant when you want to just sit down and watch a film that's not to serious. It has fantastic battles and race scenes, and some of the best creatures made. LOTR on the other hand has a very complex back story, is acted with perfection has state of the act effects and sort of sucks you into the Tolkien world (you really did feel for Frodo and the other members of the fellowship). Okay...if these two great film series where to meet in battle then LOTR would annihilate Star wars. The Fellowship of the Ring was BRILLIANT, The Two Towers was even Better, but, The Return of the King is without doubt the greatest film ever made. The LOTR trilogy RULES!

31st December 2003, 06:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
roadster Thalion Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rhode Island,USA Posts: 72	It's not even close. LOTR is a literary masterpiece while Star Wars, although excellent for what it is, is just movie fiction. You can't go to college and get a degree with SW but you can with Tolkien.

31st December 2003, 07:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
Status Master Confusser Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,383	I'll have to agree with Evolution and roadster I was around when Star Wars first came out (one of the few I actually saw at the cinema) and it was a very good story and film in it's day. However, LOTR tells a much better and eaiser paced story with the ability to pull you in and make you part of it. I've only seen the first 2 so far, but look forward to seeing The Return of the King as soon as it comes out on VHS

1st January 2004, 05:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,532	Actually, I think there are some similarities: Both tell the story of the journey of the reluctant hero. If you include the Hobbit, then both sagas tell the story over two generations of one family. Both have evil villains seduced by the power of the dark side of the magic/Force in Saruman and Vader. But neither Sauron nor the Emperor can rely on magic/the Force alone to defeat their enemies and need conventional armies. Saruman versus Count Dooku might be an interesting match. I'm not sure how the Uruk-hai versus Clone Army would turn out, but I'm sure that Middle Earth has no defence against a Death Star.

15th January 2004, 05:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
sarah2040 Shipper Queen Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Devon Posts: 1,491	Both LOTR and SW are brilliant in their own right but as others have said they're both very different. Saying that I would have to say LOTR is much better, it has so much more depth to it and you feel involved with the character's stuggles in a way you never did with SW. I don't know if anyone has read it but there's an article on The Onion about these two which isn't exactly what this discussion is about but I found it very funny. Nation's Love Affair with LOTR Threatening it's Relationship with SW

16th January 2004, 04:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
captaincarter Admiral Adama Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 559	Thats easy, Lotr wins by a landslide, star wars are not as good, the original ones are better then the new ones, but Lotr beats um all.