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Lorien1 · 21st November 2003, 11:08 AM

If the technology was available present day,would you support wind wipe (as in passing through gethsemane) as a punishment? Colin.<*>.

Mariel · 21st November 2003, 10:40 PM

I think it might be a good idea. It would lower the amount of people in prison. But I'm sure that there would be people who would be against it as a violation of human rights.
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markpud · 22nd November 2003, 03:46 PM

Its a tough choice again, I think the main points against it are similar to those of capital punishment, what if someone gets wiped and is later found to be innocent. That's why we don't have the death penalty any more, and hopefully all civilised nations will remove it soon.

I think it would take some adjusting to, and people would get attacked because of what they'd done before the wipe, so presumably it would have to be done in conjunction with the witness protection people to relocate the wiped people away from the area where they committed their crime(s).

Once case of someone reverting to type after a wiping would be enough to stop people ever trusting it.....

Mariel · 23rd November 2003, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by markpud
what if someone gets wiped and is later found to be innocent.

But the mind wipe was done after a telepath scanned the criminal. So I don't think it would be a problem.
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Lorien1 · 25th November 2003, 03:55 PM

I would support it.Thought alot about it,unlike capital punishment, if there is a mistake,the persons not dead.Not an ideal situation,but i think the pros out weigh the cons.Colin.<*>.

Rowan · 25th November 2003, 11:27 PM

Been thinking and watching this thread. Some interesting stuff here.

I'd have to go with the wipe. A couple of reasons.

#1: The person has been proven guilty not only in a court of law [by their peers] but by unshakable proof [telepathic scan]. We're going on the assumption that the scan is honest and valid and *not* done with someone else's personal agenda in mind.

#2: The person, after being wiped, is rehabilitated and returned to society to provide useful service to the society they have harmed.

Not much comfort to the families of the victums, but a better solution that imprisionment for many years at government expense and the possibility of them guilty party finding a loop-hole to get out on [as happens today].

Rowan

roadster · 26th November 2003, 05:18 PM

Wasn't there a similar thing in the original Star Trek series? I seem to remember Kirk on a "penal planet" being subjected to a "mind-wipe" device be someone. The device was supposed to erase criminal behavior so the guilty party could be re-introduced into society.

Mariel · 27th November 2003, 02:33 AM

I don't know. I was a little to young for that one :blush:
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Lorien1 · 28th November 2003, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by roadster
Wasn't there a similar thing in the original Star Trek series? I seem to remember Kirk on a "penal planet" being subjected to a "mind-wipe" device be someone. The device was supposed to erase criminal behavior so the guilty party could be re-introduced into society.

Hi There.Not too sure about that one,i will pick the brains of a Trekker! Colin.<*>.

markpud · 4th December 2003, 03:24 PM

I do vaguely remember that episode, there was a mind-wipe device, which was a big doctor's chair and some TOS gizmos. Can't recall too much about the plot other than that Kirk almost got wiped at one point...

21st November 2003, 11:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
Lorien1 Faith Manages Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Glasgow Scotland Posts: 204	Mind Wipe If the technology was available present day,would you support wind wipe (as in passing through gethsemane) as a punishment? Colin.<*>.

25th November 2003, 11:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rowan Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In the wilds of Puget Sound. Near Seth and Cascade, WA. Posts: 2,480	Thinking Been thinking and watching this thread. Some interesting stuff here. I'd have to go with the wipe. A couple of reasons. #1: The person has been proven guilty not only in a court of law [by their peers] but by unshakable proof [telepathic scan]. We're going on the assumption that the scan is honest and valid and not done with someone else's personal agenda in mind. #2: The person, after being wiped, is rehabilitated and returned to society to provide useful service to the society they have harmed. Not much comfort to the families of the victums, but a better solution that imprisionment for many years at government expense and the possibility of them guilty party finding a loop-hole to get out on [as happens today]. Rowan

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21st November 2003, 10:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mariel I teach, therefore I rule Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 559	I think it might be a good idea. It would lower the amount of people in prison. But I'm sure that there would be people who would be against it as a violation of human rights. :blpaw:

22nd November 2003, 03:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	Its a tough choice again, I think the main points against it are similar to those of capital punishment, what if someone gets wiped and is later found to be innocent. That's why we don't have the death penalty any more, and hopefully all civilised nations will remove it soon. I think it would take some adjusting to, and people would get attacked because of what they'd done before the wipe, so presumably it would have to be done in conjunction with the witness protection people to relocate the wiped people away from the area where they committed their crime(s). Once case of someone reverting to type after a wiping would be enough to stop people ever trusting it.....

25th November 2003, 03:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lorien1 Faith Manages Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Glasgow Scotland Posts: 204	I would support it.Thought alot about it,unlike capital punishment, if there is a mistake,the persons not dead.Not an ideal situation,but i think the pros out weigh the cons.Colin.<*>.

26th November 2003, 05:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
roadster Thalion Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rhode Island,USA Posts: 72	Wasn't there a similar thing in the original Star Trek series? I seem to remember Kirk on a "penal planet" being subjected to a "mind-wipe" device be someone. The device was supposed to erase criminal behavior so the guilty party could be re-introduced into society.

27th November 2003, 02:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mariel I teach, therefore I rule Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 559	I don't know. I was a little to young for that one :blush: :blpaw:

4th December 2003, 03:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	I do vaguely remember that episode, there was a mind-wipe device, which was a big doctor's chair and some TOS gizmos. Can't recall too much about the plot other than that Kirk almost got wiped at one point...