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cersei · 10th December 2003, 05:42 PM

oops me bad about smoking. Yes the previous one did too but seems much less.

as for Online Game, it is being written by W Bros so I presume some form of conflict will continue in the Matrix world (as far as I know, gameplay confined to this world only so far). As to source of conflict I don't know...I do know they have very carefully not mentioned any Agents as such.

keep track of it at www.thematrixonline.com

timdgreat · 12th December 2003, 05:59 AM

cool thanks cersei, ill keep up now

:rolly2:

pkgrl · 13th December 2003, 03:48 AM

Yeah, cersei is DEFINATELY the One (hehe) to ask about the online game... at least, around here. I don't have the time to get into that kind of thing... although I will be scoping out as many Matrix scenes as I can while I'm in Sydney next month. :naughty:

timdgreat · 15th December 2003, 07:51 PM

aww no fair

:rolly2:

Tabitha · 4th January 2004, 03:02 AM

Well folks, I finally saw Revolutions, and I think I saw some very different things in it than you guys did.

I think it is very significant that Sati plays such a large role in this movie. Well, okay, it isn't that large, but I think it is important.

The fact that Seraph and Sati, and the Oracle and the Architect are the characters who end the film kind of backs up my feeling that this is a Matrix-within-a-Matrix. In fact, I have gone even further over the edge, and decided that this final film in particular is all about a revolution within the Machine hierarchy.

The conversation between the Oracle and the Architect at the end - she asks him something along the lines of 'will the others go free?'. This seems to be the central point of their truce, and I can't imagine that line referring to Zion, it just doesn't feel right to me. I think it is referring to the rebel programs - which we learned more about in the train station. I got the overriding impression that the Oracle was using the humans to wage war on the Architect's order for her own purposes - to free the rebel programs.

I know it isn't a very well developed idea, but the seemingly pat ending, with Neo sacrificing himself to win a truce with the machines for the people of Zion didn't seem to be the message we were left with at the end.

I have to think about it more, but if anyone wants to pick apart my theory go right ahead - it is more of an instinct than an informed conclusion after all

timdgreat · 6th January 2004, 10:15 PM

its an interesting theory Tab, i can see the sense in it, i got the impression however (as im sure most people did) that the Oracle meant the other people still pluged into the matrix, at least the ones that wanted out given a choice.

as for poking holes in ur theory ill let others do that:rolly2:

pkgrl · 26th January 2004, 03:05 AM

It's an awesome theory, Tabitha, and one that gave me pause.

But I have to think that if the humans weren't really "awake," ie seperated from the matrix, then why would we need to see their war? Why show us all the squiddies attacking? Once Neo and Trin are gone, why bother with showing us the Zionites ever again? If they're still in the matrix, then we as an audience don't need to be kept plugged into THEIR perceived reality, do we?

Status · 23rd April 2004, 04:38 PM

I just finished watching Revolutions and will have to agree that it is good.

I could have done with shorter battle scenes but then it would probably have been too short. :lol:

Of the three I like this one the best, at least this one had a beginning and end (of sorts). It made more sense to me than the other two though without the first two it probably wouldn’t have. I’d say if anyone has watched the first two then watching this one is a must!

10th December 2003, 05:42 PM	#31 (permalink)
cersei Matriculated Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 126	Matirx Online game... oops me bad about smoking. Yes the previous one did too but seems much less. as for Online Game, it is being written by W Bros so I presume some form of conflict will continue in the Matrix world (as far as I know, gameplay confined to this world only so far). As to source of conflict I don't know...I do know they have very carefully not mentioned any Agents as such. keep track of it at www.thematrixonline.com

12th December 2003, 05:59 AM	#32 (permalink)
timdgreat For the Emperor Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Alexandria VA, USA(Washington DC u idiots) Posts: 3,090	cool thanks cersei, ill keep up now:rolly2:

15th December 2003, 07:51 PM	#34 (permalink)
timdgreat For the Emperor Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Alexandria VA, USA(Washington DC u idiots) Posts: 3,090	aww no fair:rolly2:

13th December 2003, 03:48 AM	#33 (permalink)
pkgrl Ultimate J/A shipper! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,423	Yeah, cersei is DEFINATELY the One (hehe) to ask about the online game... at least, around here. I don't have the time to get into that kind of thing... although I *will* be scoping out as many Matrix scenes as I can while I'm in Sydney next month. :naughty:

4th January 2004, 03:02 AM	#35 (permalink)
Tabitha Save Angel! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 3,586	Well folks, I finally saw Revolutions, and I think I saw some very different things in it than you guys did. I think it is very significant that Sati plays such a large role in this movie. Well, okay, it isn't that large, but I think it is important. The fact that Seraph and Sati, and the Oracle and the Architect are the characters who end the film kind of backs up my feeling that this is a Matrix-within-a-Matrix. In fact, I have gone even further over the edge, and decided that this final film in particular is all about a revolution within the Machine hierarchy. The conversation between the Oracle and the Architect at the end - she asks him something along the lines of 'will the others go free?'. This seems to be the central point of their truce, and I can't imagine that line referring to Zion, it just doesn't feel right to me. I think it is referring to the rebel programs - which we learned more about in the train station. I got the overriding impression that the Oracle was using the humans to wage war on the Architect's order for her own purposes - to free the rebel programs. I know it isn't a very well developed idea, but the seemingly pat ending, with Neo sacrificing himself to win a truce with the machines for the people of Zion didn't seem to be the message we were left with at the end. I have to think about it more, but if anyone wants to pick apart my theory go right ahead - it is more of an instinct than an informed conclusion after all

6th January 2004, 10:15 PM	#36 (permalink)
timdgreat For the Emperor Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Alexandria VA, USA(Washington DC u idiots) Posts: 3,090	its an interesting theory Tab, i can see the sense in it, i got the impression however (as im sure most people did) that the Oracle meant the other people still pluged into the matrix, at least the ones that wanted out given a choice. as for poking holes in ur theory ill let others do that:rolly2:

26th January 2004, 03:05 AM	#37 (permalink)
pkgrl Ultimate J/A shipper! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,423	It's an awesome theory, Tabitha, and one that gave me pause. But I have to think that if the humans weren't really "awake," ie seperated from the matrix, then why would we need to see their war? Why show us all the squiddies attacking? Once Neo and Trin are gone, why bother with showing us the Zionites ever again? If they're still in the matrix, then we as an audience don't need to be kept plugged into THEIR perceived reality, do we?

23rd April 2004, 04:38 PM	#38 (permalink)
Status Master Confusser Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,369	I just finished watching Revolutions and will have to agree that it is good. I could have done with shorter battle scenes but then it would probably have been too short. :lol: Of the three I like this one the best, at least this one had a beginning and end (of sorts). It made more sense to me than the other two though without the first two it probably wouldn’t have. I’d say if anyone has watched the first two then watching this one is a must!