X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)

[Foxbat]

Finally saw this. I enjoyed it but it was definitely the weakest of the three. On the point of easy deaths of main characters. I think if handled well, a meaningless death for a strong character can add an element of pathos and real-life.....it happens. Note that I said if it is handled well.

I felt the script a bit clumsy and too many characters with not enough to do. I thought there could have ben a strong bond built between Angel and the boy looking out the window of the institute but it came to nothing. The look of wonder on the boy's face just begged for a bit of plot development there.

I think on the whole, I'd have preferred a movie with a load of Sentinels in it.

However, spectacular effects and big fights do not, on their own, a movie make. Still, I'd happily watch it again

[I, Brian]

Just watched this at the weekend, too.

Overall, enjoyed it and in terms of presentation, very well done.

But...when characters died there seemed to be no real strength to the deaths. Even when mutants were forcefully made "normal" the movie rushed on without giving us time to really appreciate what had happened.

Also - the boy who was the "cure" - was a shame, as he seemed pretty peripheral and do little, even though he was essentially at the core of the film's plot. Would have thought he would have needed to be directly involved with the final death scene in order to make it happen.

[I, Brian]

ADDED: Anything think there'll be a sequel? The scene after the end credits suggested the potential was there...though perhaps too many major characters would be missing.

And I agree with Foxbat - would have been nice to see the Sentinels involved, as per the original story, rather than a fighton Alcatraz.

[lizzybob]

Okay question about X-men in general but one that I thought of once again tonight when watching The Last Stand ... why are all the mutants that are unable to switch their X-gene off, like Beast, Nightcrawler and Mystique, blue? Is their any special significance or did they just like blue? It does look really really kewl but I often wonder why blue?

Anyone got any thoughts on it?

[Winters_Sorrow]

I don't think any mutant can turn their power 'off'
If you mean that they can appear human rather than obviously mutated, well there's plenty of other non-blue mutants who fall into that category. Toad for one, Angel for another. The Morlocks (although you can't tell in the movies) are actually all supposed to be physically mutated which is why they have to live in the sewers in the comics.

In the comics, it turns out that Nightcrawler & Mystique are actually mother & son but Beast's blue appearance is down to effectively experimenting on himself to enhance his abilities.

I think the reason we don't see many obvious mutants in the films is purely budgetory. It's costs a lot of time & money to apply makeup to them. I think it took over 6 hours to apply the Mystique makeup during the first X-Men movie.

[Marky Lazer]

Originally Posted by lizzybob

Okay question about X-men in general but one that I thought of once again tonight when watching The Last Stand ... why are all the mutants that are unable to switch their X-gene off, like Beast, Nightcrawler and Mystique, blue? Is their any special significance or did they just like blue? It does look really really kewl but I often wonder why blue?

Anyone got any thoughts on it?

This talk about blue makes me wonder, "Are Smurfs mutants?"

[Winters_Sorrow]

Depends how we define mutancy I suppose.
My idea is 'a genetic variation from the norm' from a certain population.
Smurfs seem to all be identical to each other.

So I guess what I'm saying is that smurfs aren't mutants but smurfette is!

[Foxbat]

Originally Posted by I, Brian

ADDED: Anything think there'll be a sequel? The scene after the end credits suggested the potential was there...though perhaps too many major characters would be missing.

I wonder if this will lead to the previously mentioned Magneto film rather than another X film?

[Valko]

Originally Posted by I, Brian

ADDED: Anything think there'll be a sequel? The scene after the end credits suggested the potential was there...though perhaps too many major characters would be missing.

And I agree with Foxbat - would have been nice to see the Sentinels involved, as per the original story, rather than a fighton Alcatraz.

Hugh Jackman confirmed he's in talks for a standalone Wolverine film

[Memnoch]

Originally Posted by Valko

Hugh Jackman confirmed he's in talks for a standalone Wolverine film

That would be good.

I felt the third film seriously missed the vision of Bryan Singer, the previous 2 were very enjoyable. It wasn't a good way to end the supposed trilogy. Usual failings, lets throw in loads of characters, as attempted in Batman + Robin, Blade 3. Lose focus on the main characters, leaves alot of loose ends, some why and what if questions, where certain mutants with certain abilities don't utilalise them as you would think obvious!! . . .

[Memnoch]

Originally Posted by Marky Lazer

This talk about blue makes me wonder, "Are Smurfs mutants?"

Mutants are Human Beings, either genetically altered from the norm or born with abilities above and beyond a normal human.

A Smurf is a Smurf . . . not a human being, smurfette was created by Gargamell to attempt to infiltrate and kill the smurfs till she was won over I believe.

(also smurfs are cartoons and mutants are real, I was talking to one in the pub last night, I swear to god (erm me) this guys eyes were going in seperate directions like a chameleon!! Then vomited on his chips and began eating them like a fly!! Before sliding to the floor and crawing and talking/moaning in an alien language, like a slug leaving a golden trail behind him!! So they must exsist!!)

[Valko]

Singer pulled out after he saw the final script, can't say I blame him. Killing off certain characters was a bad move. I think a Mastermould (sorry about the spelling) or Apocalypse film would have been a better choice

[Memnoch]

Definately . . where was Gambit??

Was it not that he couldn't bear to pass up Superman Returns, or was that just an excuse??

[Valko]

Originally Posted by Memnoch

Definately . . where was Gambit??

Was it not that he couldn't bear to pass up Superman Returns, or was that just an excuse??

It's well known X Men was his fav comic and he wanted to stay true to the characters. The fact that 3 directors came and went on the movie should have been an indicator that something was wrong.

I've just scoured the net for more info on sequels/spinoffs. Universal have officially confirmed shooting will start on the Wolverine movie next year, they are in the early stages of scripting a Young Magneto film and finally, the newer X Men actors have signed for a new film but none of the main actors have.

[Memnoch]

All will do well, although I have a few doubts over the younger X men movie, it could weaken the franchise further!!!