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libelula · 1st July 2003, 02:02 PM

Okay at the end of the movie x-men two there is the scene clearly indicating they are going to take on the pheionx saga in x-men three. All I know about this saga is what I saw in the cartoonh back in fifth grade (I am now a rising junior in college). Someone told me that in fact Grey does not become inhabited by a supernatural being as seen in the cartoon, but instead the rise in her power is all her, she becomes corrupted then becomes dark pheonix ,and commits suicide. The incron crystal **** isn´t in the comic. Then someone else told me that she is infact inhabited by something. who is telling the truth?

ZachWZ · 2nd July 2003, 05:26 AM

Here's what i have been able to piece together from flashbacks. After a space mission Jean Grey is exposec to cosmic rays via Fantastic Four. She then becomes superpowerful. Somehow she becomes unhinged and dsroys an alien planet. After a few battles she regains her sences long enough to commit suicide.

Then years later it is found out that Jean Grey while on that space mission has replaced by the Phoenix force who was overwhelm by human emotion and Jean Grey was in stasis the entire time.

That's all i firguredas I said i only know the story through flashbacks.

ZachWZ

libelula · 2nd July 2003, 04:54 PM

Thanks the whole thing sounds so confusing to me.

SilverCaladan · 19th July 2003, 12:17 AM

of course its confusing, it is, after all, Marvel

but you've basically got it right.

Jean was piloting a shuttle on the way back to earth when she was exposed to radiation and the phoenix force heard her telepathic cries for help, and came to her. there, the phoenix force offered to save the other X-men on the shuttle and her own life. so she, it, whatever, placed Jean in suspended animation to slowly recover from the radiation poisoning, and took on Jean's form and psyche.
Then Phoenix went insane, I'm guessing from the sensory overload of being human and not like a god, and she destroyed many worlds. Then in the midst of this confusion Jean's psyche asserted itself, and horrified at annihilating so many worlds, she committed suicide. or something along those lines.

so anyways, scott was devastated, but the part of Jean's pysche that Phoenix took was returned to her, and she woke up. And thats basically it.

eh, it always takes so much work to make sense of all of Marvel's plot twists, but hey, thats why I read it

libelula · 19th July 2003, 03:46 AM

Its going to be interesting how they are going to do the movie.

SilverCaladan · 19th July 2003, 04:45 AM

yea, this time its like the phoenix force came from inside her. about the only thing that's the same is the fact that she got buried under water. well... whatever happens it's gotta be good, for their own sakes. lol.

*sniff* i cant belive pyro went with Magneto... he's my fav character next to Iceman... and shawn ashmore *drools*.

libelula · 20th July 2003, 02:36 AM

Yeah he was pretty hot.:blush:

gland · 26th August 2003, 06:48 AM

http://www.marveldirectory.com/indiv...j/jeangrey.htm

...Jean's bio/history. It lays it all out.

1st July 2003, 02:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
libelula Stinkin Human Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 201	X-men: Pheoinix(spell) Saga Okay at the end of the movie x-men two there is the scene clearly indicating they are going to take on the pheionx saga in x-men three. All I know about this saga is what I saw in the cartoonh back in fifth grade (I am now a rising junior in college). Someone told me that in fact Grey does not become inhabited by a supernatural being as seen in the cartoon, but instead the rise in her power is all her, she becomes corrupted then becomes dark pheonix ,and commits suicide. The incron crystal **** isn´t in the comic. Then someone else told me that she is infact inhabited by something. who is telling the truth?

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libelula Stinkin Human Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 201	reply Thanks the whole thing sounds so confusing to me.

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2nd July 2003, 05:26 AM	#2 (permalink)
ZachWZ Pre 1986 Comics Fan Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Ottawa county MI USA Posts: 592	Here's what i have been able to piece together from flashbacks. After a space mission Jean Grey is exposec to cosmic rays via Fantastic Four. She then becomes superpowerful. Somehow she becomes unhinged and dsroys an alien planet. After a few battles she regains her sences long enough to commit suicide. Then years later it is found out that Jean Grey while on that space mission has replaced by the Phoenix force who was overwhelm by human emotion and Jean Grey was in stasis the entire time. That's all i firguredas I said i only know the story through flashbacks. ZachWZ

19th July 2003, 12:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
SilverCaladan a WaNDeRiNG LiZaRD Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Crawling on the ceiling of the Anime Forum Posts: 635	of course its confusing, it is, after all, Marvel but you've basically got it right. Jean was piloting a shuttle on the way back to earth when she was exposed to radiation and the phoenix force heard her telepathic cries for help, and came to her. there, the phoenix force offered to save the other X-men on the shuttle and her own life. so she, it, whatever, placed Jean in suspended animation to slowly recover from the radiation poisoning, and took on Jean's form and psyche. Then Phoenix went insane, I'm guessing from the sensory overload of being human and not like a god, and she destroyed many worlds. Then in the midst of this confusion Jean's psyche asserted itself, and horrified at annihilating so many worlds, she committed suicide. or something along those lines. so anyways, scott was devastated, but the part of Jean's pysche that Phoenix took was returned to her, and she woke up. And thats basically it. eh, it always takes so much work to make sense of all of Marvel's plot twists, but hey, thats why I read it

19th July 2003, 03:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
libelula Stinkin Human Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 201	Its going to be interesting how they are going to do the movie.

19th July 2003, 04:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
SilverCaladan a WaNDeRiNG LiZaRD Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Crawling on the ceiling of the Anime Forum Posts: 635	yea, this time its like the phoenix force came from inside her. about the only thing that's the same is the fact that she got buried under water. well... whatever happens it's gotta be good, for their own sakes. lol. sniff i cant belive pyro went with Magneto... he's my fav character next to Iceman... and shawn ashmore drools.

20th July 2003, 02:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
libelula Stinkin Human Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 201	Yeah he was pretty hot.:blush:

26th August 2003, 06:48 AM	#8 (permalink)
gland Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ...Manhattan...whatever Posts: 41	http://www.marveldirectory.com/indiv...j/jeangrey.htm ...Jean's bio/history. It lays it all out.