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VertexOfLife668 · 24th June 2003, 06:51 PM

If earths Stargatge was buried when we discovered it , after earth rebelled, than why arent more planets stargates buried, or did people never get around to burying its stargate, than again why arent some more planets covered with a coversotne or an iris?

PTeppic · 24th June 2003, 08:01 PM

A few thoughts:

a) the Earth rebellion may have been led or inspired by Omoroca ("Fire and Water"), and so may have had outside knowledge to know that buying with a coverstone would be necessary/appropriate

b) we wouldn't be able to connect to a buried gate, so we're unlikely to have been to such a planet - there're very few we've been to apart from by Stargate

c) the Goa'uld seem to have just abandoned many planets - e.g. "First Commandment", "Brief Candle" to just begin thinking... so they may not have need bothered put up coverstones

d) the coverstone was a dodgy plot device in the film - if Ra had really wanted to re-enslave the people of Earth at Giza he could have done so by force from his pyramid ship; but it has provided a useful technical widget in SG-1 for allowing peoples to keep their gates "closed"

e) being buried needed require a coverstone - that's a particularly Egyptian trait (perhaps), and other cultures may have used other things - burial mounds, temples, sealing it in a box etc... but see (b)

gland · 24th August 2003, 05:50 AM

Also keep in mind that, for one reason or another, a great many worlds see the Stargate as something holy, and/or a ceremonial religous item/site.

PTeppic · 24th August 2003, 07:39 AM

Yes, but doesn't "real" archaeology show us that if the local populations realised that their "gods" were actually domineering outsiders, and not real, having overthrown them and toppled the Stargate would they not have de-ritualised the gate. By that I mean removed the mystery and deification etc., since that would help them get over the previous enslavement?

gland · 24th August 2003, 04:28 PM

Yes, it would. However, you must remember that it's nearly impossible to convince an entire culture that their religous beliefs are wrong, even if you have every scrap of rock hard evidance in the world. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the worlds that SG-1 has liberated still has people who secretly believe the Goa'uld are gods, and/or this is all some devine test of faith or something.

24th June 2003, 06:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
VertexOfLife668 MacUseless Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 47	Buried Stargate If earths Stargatge was buried when we discovered it , after earth rebelled, than why arent more planets stargates buried, or did people never get around to burying its stargate, than again why arent some more planets covered with a coversotne or an iris?

24th June 2003, 08:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,102	A few thoughts: a) the Earth rebellion may have been led or inspired by Omoroca ("Fire and Water"), and so may have had outside knowledge to know that buying with a coverstone would be necessary/appropriate b) we wouldn't be able to connect to a buried gate, so we're unlikely to have been to such a planet - there're very few we've been to apart from by Stargate c) the Goa'uld seem to have just abandoned many planets - e.g. "First Commandment", "Brief Candle" to just begin thinking... so they may not have need bothered put up coverstones d) the coverstone was a dodgy plot device in the film - if Ra had really wanted to re-enslave the people of Earth at Giza he could have done so by force from his pyramid ship; but it has provided a useful technical widget in SG-1 for allowing peoples to keep their gates "closed" e) being buried needed require a coverstone - that's a particularly Egyptian trait (perhaps), and other cultures may have used other things - burial mounds, temples, sealing it in a box etc... but see (b)

24th August 2003, 05:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
gland Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ...Manhattan...whatever Posts: 41	Also keep in mind that, for one reason or another, a great many worlds see the Stargate as something holy, and/or a ceremonial religous item/site.

24th August 2003, 07:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,102	Yes, but doesn't "real" archaeology show us that if the local populations realised that their "gods" were actually domineering outsiders, and not real, having overthrown them and toppled the Stargate would they not have de-ritualised the gate. By that I mean removed the mystery and deification etc., since that would help them get over the previous enslavement?

24th August 2003, 04:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
gland Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ...Manhattan...whatever Posts: 41	Yes, it would. However, you must remember that it's nearly impossible to convince an entire culture that their religous beliefs are wrong, even if you have every scrap of rock hard evidance in the world. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the worlds that SG-1 has liberated still has people who secretly believe the Goa'uld are gods, and/or this is all some devine test of faith or something.