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VAMPette · 26th April 2003, 03:11 PM

Holly Valance as new Buffy - ugh, puleease no!

Don't think that this is true, cos it doesn't seem very realistic, but thought I would post this article. Don't do it Joss!!

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Arc_Angel · 1st May 2003, 10:16 PM

I think this ain't real, just something to give her publicity

I'd ignore it if I were you

Highlander II · 2nd May 2003, 04:42 PM

I think they should go w/ Shrek the Vampire Slayer - that's just so much cooler

I hope not - I still think that Faith carrying on would be the best - and if not her - Willow would be okay - though, I think we were overloaded w/ Willow in S6 - but that's just me --- whatever they chose - I kinda hope they take a different direction - maybe kinda get back to the MOW ideas and the building up to a Big Bad at the end - but maybe a little less overall story arc - more like BtVS S2 or something ----

*sits back to wait and see*

little smaug · 2nd May 2003, 07:12 PM

Urgh, even Dawn would be better than her! :disgust:

Arc_Angel · 3rd May 2003, 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by Highlander II
I think they should go w/ Shrek the Vampire Slayer - that's just so much cooler

Ha ha lol :lol:

HeyLynny · 1st June 2003, 05:00 AM

I like the idea of a computer animated vampire slayer (Shrek). Who else would be good?.....How about Ariel from the Little Mermaid?

Highlander II · 1st June 2003, 04:20 PM

Actually - the Holly Valance rumor has been quashed -- as far as I know - she's not gonna be 'the next slayer' --- (read it on another message board somewhere) -

greyhorse · 1st June 2003, 04:46 PM

I think Buffy the Vampire Slayer only works with a blond. The name Buffy, and the way Buffy looked (esp. earlier seasons and in the movie) both had a message. They're obvious ways of telling the audience that names and how a person looks aren't as important as what someone does.

I always wonder how the actors must feel when they have to say her name during a serious scene. I'm sure there must be some outakes involving someone just bursting out laughing when they say 'Buffy...'

Anyway, I think Joss has taken Buffy as far as he can without ruining it. Let it end I say.

HeyLynny · 23rd June 2003, 03:26 AM

I agree. This last season was not that great. The season before really had me on the edge of my seat evey week, but this season not even close.

jodie_1uk · 3rd July 2003, 07:04 PM

I think all the seasons have been great. some better then others but still its bin such a great show.

Lets hope that nobody replaces buffy because im afraid she cant be replaced there will only ever be one buffy in my eyes and that is SMG.

Vampyre · 21st November 2003, 12:13 AM

Hey Greyhorse! I like the name Buffy! Markpud, there's someone insulting Buffy in here!

markpud · 22nd November 2003, 03:56 PM

Tell-tale

I think it was definitely part of the whole ethos of the show that Buffy, a vacuous blond cheer-leader type was called to save the world from vampires and the rest. That someone as bimbo-y as Buffy in the movie could become as strong a person as SMG's Buffy became over the seasons was part of Joss' plan all along I'm sure.

A short blond girl with a silly name who saves the world....that's the entire point of the show!!

For the record I think now that it was good to end Buffy without another season, S7 was mostly good, but I think the sparkle was beginning to fade, so it was a good decision to end the show while it was still strong.

Spin-off's, sure why not, Angel is going strong in it's fifth season in the US now, and who could have imagined at the end of S3 Buffy how easy it would be to not have Angel around and not have that Buffy-Angel storyline throughout the show (although it did pop up now and then in the guest spots)?

I'd love to see a Faith show, the long-awaited Watcher series should be interesting too, if it ever appears. For now guest spots on Angel by the Buffy cast should ease the loss of the show...

Highlander II · 22nd November 2003, 04:44 PM

I had heard that there was a spin-off idea w/ Faith and Spike - but that's all that anyone ever heard about it (well, except JM and he won't say more about it b/c it "wasn't [his] idea") - but ED got that "Tru Calling" show (which is 'eh'); so JM went to AtS and now we'll have to 'wait and see' --

I think Faith and Spike in a spin-off would be a LOT of fun ---

And yes - the blond girl w/ the goofy name being strong is the whole point of the show -- I just think they 'over-developed' Buffy by about mid S5 - well, maybe early S6 - *shrug* I liked her better in S2 --

markpud · 23rd November 2003, 05:59 PM

Well without getting into it, Buffy did have a lot to deal with emotionally in seasons 5 and 6, what with all the deaths, gods and evil-wiccas running about, it would have been bad for the show if Buffy had simply cruised through it all with a witty one-liner and a stake to the heart.. But it did take the show on a different route, particularly in S6, but evolution of characters is essential for the continued success of a show.

Highlander II · 24th November 2003, 01:09 AM

Actually - I kinda think they 'ran out' of things to do with Buffy - so we got that weird S6 stuff (that and the fact that Joss was rather scarece, so we had to deal with whatever Marti came up with - but that's a whole other discussion)

The way someone explained it somewhere else was that in S6 - Buffy was dealing with 'every day' stuff - which, really isn't very entertaining - the example used was 'taking out the trash' - do you really want to come home from work and sit down w/ your fave characters only to see them take out the trash? Or worry about the trash?

Everyday stuff can be interesting - but it needs a Joss-twist to it - or it's boring. B/c that's the way he started the show - just an ordinary girl, trying to do ordinary things - go to school, go to prom, have a boyfriend, have friends, etc, etc, etc - and that seemed to work pretty well, until S6 - S5 was actually pretty decent for character development - even for Buffy - what w/ the new sister and all - they just forgot to develop the *other* characters in the cast. And don't even get me started on S7 - which needed a LOT of work and a more even arc. I'm not saying that I'd be able to do a brilliant job, but since they 'switched gears' about 1/2-way through; stuff got kinda goofed -- bad Joss.

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HeyLynny Explorer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: New York Posts: 621	Shrek is good I like the idea of a computer animated vampire slayer (Shrek). Who else would be good?.....How about Ariel from the Little Mermaid?

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HeyLynny Explorer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: New York Posts: 621	I agree I agree. This last season was not that great. The season before really had me on the edge of my seat evey week, but this season not even close.

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1st May 2003, 10:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
Arc_Angel Mr. Flibble is very cross Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,873	I think this ain't real, just something to give her publicity I'd ignore it if I were you

2nd May 2003, 04:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,456	I think they should go w/ Shrek the Vampire Slayer - that's just so much cooler I hope not - I still think that Faith carrying on would be the best - and if not her - Willow would be okay - though, I think we were overloaded w/ Willow in S6 - but that's just me --- whatever they chose - I kinda hope they take a different direction - maybe kinda get back to the MOW ideas and the building up to a Big Bad at the end - but maybe a little less overall story arc - more like BtVS S2 or something ---- sits back to wait and see

2nd May 2003, 07:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
little smaug Fire and Brimstone Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 1,343	Urgh, even Dawn would be better than her! :disgust:

1st June 2003, 04:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,456	Actually - the Holly Valance rumor has been quashed -- as far as I know - she's not gonna be 'the next slayer' --- (read it on another message board somewhere) -

1st June 2003, 04:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
greyhorse swinging to the tunes Join Date: May 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 94	I think Buffy the Vampire Slayer only works with a blond. The name Buffy, and the way Buffy looked (esp. earlier seasons and in the movie) both had a message. They're obvious ways of telling the audience that names and how a person looks aren't as important as what someone does. I always wonder how the actors must feel when they have to say her name during a serious scene. I'm sure there must be some outakes involving someone just bursting out laughing when they say 'Buffy...' Anyway, I think Joss has taken Buffy as far as he can without ruining it. Let it end I say.

3rd July 2003, 07:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
jodie_1uk Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: tamworth Posts: 4	I think all the seasons have been great. some better then others but still its bin such a great show. Lets hope that nobody replaces buffy because im afraid she cant be replaced there will only ever be one buffy in my eyes and that is SMG.

21st November 2003, 12:13 AM	#11 (permalink)
Vampyre The Big Bad. Join Date: May 2001 Location: ENGLAND! Posts: 2,369	Hey Greyhorse! I like the name Buffy! Markpud, there's someone insulting Buffy in here!

22nd November 2003, 03:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	Tell-tale I think it was definitely part of the whole ethos of the show that Buffy, a vacuous blond cheer-leader type was called to save the world from vampires and the rest. That someone as bimbo-y as Buffy in the movie could become as strong a person as SMG's Buffy became over the seasons was part of Joss' plan all along I'm sure. A short blond girl with a silly name who saves the world....that's the entire point of the show!! For the record I think now that it was good to end Buffy without another season, S7 was mostly good, but I think the sparkle was beginning to fade, so it was a good decision to end the show while it was still strong. Spin-off's, sure why not, Angel is going strong in it's fifth season in the US now, and who could have imagined at the end of S3 Buffy how easy it would be to not have Angel around and not have that Buffy-Angel storyline throughout the show (although it did pop up now and then in the guest spots)? I'd love to see a Faith show, the long-awaited Watcher series should be interesting too, if it ever appears. For now guest spots on Angel by the Buffy cast should ease the loss of the show...

22nd November 2003, 04:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,456	I had heard that there was a spin-off idea w/ Faith and Spike - but that's all that anyone ever heard about it (well, except JM and he won't say more about it b/c it "wasn't [his] idea") - but ED got that "Tru Calling" show (which is 'eh'); so JM went to AtS and now we'll have to 'wait and see' -- I think Faith and Spike in a spin-off would be a LOT of fun --- And yes - the blond girl w/ the goofy name being strong is the whole point of the show -- I just think they 'over-developed' Buffy by about mid S5 - well, maybe early S6 - shrug I liked her better in S2 --

23rd November 2003, 05:59 PM	#14 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	Well without getting into it, Buffy did have a lot to deal with emotionally in seasons 5 and 6, what with all the deaths, gods and evil-wiccas running about, it would have been bad for the show if Buffy had simply cruised through it all with a witty one-liner and a stake to the heart.. But it did take the show on a different route, particularly in S6, but evolution of characters is essential for the continued success of a show.

24th November 2003, 01:09 AM	#15 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,456	Actually - I kinda think they 'ran out' of things to do with Buffy - so we got that weird S6 stuff (that and the fact that Joss was rather scarece, so we had to deal with whatever Marti came up with - but that's a whole other discussion) The way someone explained it somewhere else was that in S6 - Buffy was dealing with 'every day' stuff - which, really isn't very entertaining - the example used was 'taking out the trash' - do you really want to come home from work and sit down w/ your fave characters only to see them take out the trash? Or worry about the trash? Everyday stuff can be interesting - but it needs a Joss-twist to it - or it's boring. B/c that's the way he started the show - just an ordinary girl, trying to do ordinary things - go to school, go to prom, have a boyfriend, have friends, etc, etc, etc - and that seemed to work pretty well, until S6 - S5 was actually pretty decent for character development - even for Buffy - what w/ the new sister and all - they just forgot to develop the other characters in the cast. And don't even get me started on S7 - which needed a LOT of work and a more even arc. I'm not saying that I'd be able to do a brilliant job, but since they 'switched gears' about 1/2-way through; stuff got kinda goofed -- bad Joss.